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[Zodiac]

So so far I know

1) not to have bad refresh rates (super fast, like 1-2)
2) not to have 0.1-0.2 for OCR/Pre-Haggle delay

but Im not sure how long i should be running Ambrosia
tips guys?

anybody

bump

[manophear]

no more than 6 hours a day generally
no more than 2 hours at a time

[Zodiac]

And How I Schedule this?

[generalgsus]

Go to Program Settings, and on the top where you see the tabs, go all the way to scheduler. Schedule accordingly.

[ThaMan]

You want to have your total OCR/buying time to be 2+ seconds. And refresh rate depends really, on how quickly you want to be restock banned. Some people even run upwards of 20 seconds. Imo 8-14 works well.

[RKO]

refresh times should be based on the shop you are at. if its pharmacy( bulk restocks) 8-14 is perfect. If its magic( items sell out in split seconds) 2-5.
OCR.+Pre-haggle no less then a total of 1.5 seconds.

Dont Ab for more then 6 hours a day, take breaks in between Abing sessions.

[generalgsus]

refresh times should be based on the shop you are at. if its pharmacy( bulk restocks) 8-14 is perfect. If its magic( items sell out in split seconds) 2-5.
OCR.+Pre-haggle no less then a total of 1.5 seconds.

Dont Ab for more then 6 hours a day, take breaks in between Abing sessions.

Which other shops bulk restock?

This means that if it restocks, it restocks massive amounts of items, right?

[Boggart]

No offense everyone, but why not try legit restocking for a bit?

Then you'll know by expereince which shops restock often, and those that don't. Plus it gives you experience about shops that have turnover and what not. It helps. You don't actually have to be able to buy stuff, just learn about stock rotation

[generalgsus]

No offense everyone, but why not try legit restocking for a bit?

Then you'll know by expereince which shops restock often, and those that don't. Plus it gives you experience about shops that have turnover and what not. It helps. You don't actually have to be able to buy stuff, just learn about stock rotation

Because I don't really have the patience, and have never really seen a restock with my own eyes - ever.

By the way, what does turnover mean in the world of ABing? Stock Rotation? Sorry, the terms are a bit confused, you see I'm not too experienced in this realm at all. It seems kinda impossible to me that legit RSers will ever catch restocks though.

[ThaMan]

Ive tried legit restocking, fucking sux. boring as shit too.

[generalgsus]

Ive tried legit restocking, fucking sux. boring as shit too.

Kinda what I meant, . When I tried legit RSing I literally refreshed like every other second. No RS bans though, but like the most boring hour of my life, quite literally. Again, I don't see how legit RSers can make profit, considering how long they've got to manually refresh before they see a restock, and that's still no guarantee that they get the item.

[ThaMan]

Yea, not worth my time. I would always miss the good stuff, too.

[Boggart]

I'm just saying it's for your own benefit. We can tell you as much info as you want, but you won't really understand how it work.s

Yes it's boring. that's the point. Like here's a small set of stuff you learn when you legit restock:

refreshing 1-3 seconds IS NOT uncommon.

Ab'ing for longer than an hour at a time, unless you have a lot of patience IS VERY BORING.

Certain shops you can go longer in because of the high turnover, so it's not as boring.

etc. you learn a lot more which you can transfer into your AB'er. Seriously... just try. We're lazy for using these programs, but not even taking half an hour to properly learn why makes you extremely lazy.

[Sweeney]

If you're seriously that worried about fucking up, don't do it in the first place.

Eventually, you will get frozen.

[generalgsus]

I'm just saying it's for your own benefit. We can tell you as much info as you want, but you won't really understand how it work.s

Yes it's boring. that's the point. Like here's a small set of stuff you learn when you legit restock:

refreshing 1-3 seconds IS NOT uncommon.

Ab'ing for longer than an hour at a time, unless you have a lot of patience IS VERY BORING.

Certain shops you can go longer in because of the high turnover, so it's not as boring.

etc. you learn a lot more which you can transfer into your AB'er. Seriously... just try. We're lazy for using these programs, but not even taking half an hour to properly learn why makes you extremely lazy.

I still don't get this turnover thing.

Also, I mentioned that I did try legit RSing... I just didn't learn too much because I was impatient and couldn't be bothered to continue RSing until a restock happened. I've never actually seen a restock happen with my own eyes is why.

[Boggart]

It's a lot easier if you use adblock and semi-legit restocking. THere's a guide somewhere on here

turnover, which probably isn't even a real term (), is when a shop restocks, and then sells enough of its stock to actually get a good amount of items. So I'm not talking about plushie palace where it sells 2 items and then restocks 1 good one. I'm talking about like, food where it restocks 20 items, then down to 3, then restocks 24, and how often it happens and such.

[generalgsus]

It's a lot easier if you use adblock and semi-legit restocking. THere's a guide somewhere on here

turnover, which probably isn't even a real term (), is when a shop restocks, and then sells enough of its stock to actually get a good amount of items. So I'm not talking about plushie palace where it sells 2 items and then restocks 1 good one. I'm talking about like, food where it restocks 20 items, then down to 3, then restocks 24, and how often it happens and such.

No worries, I know of the Adblock method, and read the guide on this site about it. However, I still don't know whether that's a good idea, since I'm not sure whether TNT can find out you're doing Adblocking. Can they?

So turnover is just from one extreme to another??? Still kinda confused about this. So in your example, when the food has 20 items, they're likely to be bad? And the 3 items = good? 24 items = bad? Or what? I think I'm missing the point here... confused.

[Scot]

I'm talking about like, food where it restocks 20 items, then down to 3, then restocks 24, and how often it happens and such.

This is one of my cues that there will be a higher chance of good items in the next restock. Someone don't seem to get it and say LOL IT IS RANDOM

[generalgsus]

This is one of my cues that there will be a higher chance of good items in the next restock. Someone don't seem to get it and say LOL IT IS RANDOM

So when the shop suddenly goes down to 3 items, you know that the next 24 item restock (using the previous example) will be good?

[Boggart]

Well it IS random per se, but the chance of a shop having having only 1 item and having good items in its next restock is higher than if it had 15 to start

No worries, I know of the Adblock method, and read the guide on this site about it. However, I still don't know whether that's a good idea, since I'm not sure whether TNT can find out you're doing Adblocking. Can they?

So turnover is just from one extreme to another??? Still kinda confused about this. So in your example, when the food has 20 items, they're likely to be bad? And the 3 items = good? 24 items = bad? Or what? I think I'm missing the point here... confused.

One of our members has been using it for a year and she's still fine.

Turnover may just be a term I totally made up haha. But there are basically 3 types of stores:

a) Stores that almost always have 20+ items in them, and restock very infrequently, but have very valuable items in it (Royal Pot, Brightvale Armoury, Merifoods etc.)
b) Stores that sell items relatively quickly, but take longer to restock than normal (like stamps, magic, plushie palace is sorta between this one and type a)
c) Stores that sell items REALLY quickly and restock there shelves very quickly as well. These shops usually have a large selection of items though, so their restocks usually aren't as anticipated or valuable

and of course there are intermediates, such as clothing and furniture. And shops that are useless

[Scot]

So when the shop suddenly goes down to 3 items, you know that the next 24 item restock (using the previous example) will be good?

Boggart pretty much covered what I was going to say

[generalgsus]

Well it IS random per se, but the chance of a shop having having only 1 item and having good items in its next restock is higher than if it had 15 to start




One of our members has been using it for a year and she's still fine.

Turnover may just be a term I totally made up haha. But there are basically 3 types of stores:

a) Stores that almost always have 20+ items in them, and restock very infrequently, but have very valuable items in it (Royal Pot, Brightvale Armoury, Merifoods etc.)
b) Stores that sell items relatively quickly, but take longer to restock than normal (like stamps, magic, plushie palace is sorta between this one and type a)
c) Stores that sell items REALLY quickly and restock there shelves very quickly as well. These shops usually have a large selection of items though, so their restocks usually aren't as anticipated or valuable

and of course there are intermediates, such as clothing and furniture. And shops that are useless

Alright then. Guess I'm going Adblock RSing for a while.

And the only way to determine which stores are types (a), (b), or ©, is to legit RS for a while? I'm guessing I'm going to need to peruse just about all the stores before I get a hang of which store is which?

[Boggart]

Well the a, b and c shops you can find in any Restocking guide anywhere. It's the intermediates that really matter. Look at the item DB and see which shops look like they'll have good profits, then just semi-legit RS for a while.

When I use Abrosia, I set my "spend x amount of minutes in each store" based on which stores. I don't just put all the profitable shops.

One day I'll do just the super high profit never restock shops, so I'll put x = 60
The next day I want a full shop, so i'll set my shops to food, book, etc. and set x = 12. etc.

Spending 60 minutes in food is a waste, yet 12 in royal pot is stupid. So it's a good way to compile shops into categories.

[jcrdude]

Spending 60 minutes in food is a waste, yet 12 in royal pot is stupid. So it's a good way to compile shops into categories.

You wouldn't spend 60 mins in food most likely. After Abrosia sees a profitable restock, it changes shop

[Boggart]

You wouldn't spend 60 mins in food most likely. After Abrosia sees a profitable restock, it changes shop

Oh I know. I meant for advanced users who can set the time they spend in a shop.

Question though: if I leave it blank even as an advanced, will it switch shops after a restock as well?