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[Rambo]

I'm here *waves*

[jcrdude]

Are the boards really that dead?

A little bit, but I think the post was pretty hilarious either way.

[Jake]

[Sweeney]

Yes.

Because in a universe where anything is possible, it's possible for something to be both impossible and possible at the same time.

[Hawk]

Your post count is reduced too (not that you care). Now stop being a smart-ass.

Okay Mom. You've got to go through a lot of my posts, I've done plenty of smiley face posts, and this is the first I've been called on.

Are the boards really that dead?

Well last time I tried to visit this place only had two lines of text, and the IRC was dead, so I was like "Fuck it"

[Jake]

Yes.

Because in a universe where anything is possible, it's possible for something to be both impossible and possible at the same time.

But it's impossible for something to be impossible if anything is possible.

[Sweeney]

But it's impossible for something to be impossible if anything is possible.

No, by definition, it isn't.

You think you've posed a paradox, where in fact, you're just not thinking adequately around the concept.

[iargue]

No, by definition, it isn't.

You think you've posed a paradox, where in fact, you're just not thinking adequately around the concept.

im·pos·si·ble   [im-pos-uh-buhl] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
not possible; unable to be, exist, happen, etc.
2.
unable to be done, performed, effected, etc.: an impossible assignment.
3.
incapable of being true, as a rumor.
4.
not to be done, endured, etc., with any degree of reason or propriety: an impossible situation.
5.
utterly impracticable: an impossible plan.
6.
hopelessly unsuitable, difficult, or objectionable.

So. By definition. Something is impossible if it is "not possible" and thus something cannot be possible and impossible at the same time.

[Sweeney]

*snip pointless definition paste*

So. By definition. Something is impossible if it is "not possible" and thus something cannot be possible and impossible at the same time.

We're not talking about the real world. This is a universe where anything is possible.
Ergo, something can be both possible and impossible.

Formal logic does not apply, if you accept as axiomatic that anything is possible.

[5MGEDOHC]

so funny how this thread has gone from doodles to nationality to more doodles to convo about the universe neocodex pwns

[phalkon]

i don't think its so much a conversation about the universe, but the probability of the existence of a parallel universe where anything (including the impossible) is possible. i'd have to agree with joe here though. like Spock says (and i'm paraphrasing for the context) in a universe where anything is possible, even the impossible, however improbable, can be possible.

[jcrdude]

We're not talking about the real world. This is a universe where anything is possible.
Ergo, something can be both possible and impossible.

Formal logic does not apply, if you accept as axiomatic that anything is possible.

Elaboration:

In Quantum Physics, the act of observing something changes its outcome.

In general, this concept seems impossible, but is generally accepted as well.

To take it one step further, how do we know that the unobserved is performing "the possible"? We can't know because observing it changes the outcome. Therefore, the impossible may well be happening because we cannot observe it happening.

[Sweeney]

Elaboration:

In Quantum Physics, the act of observing something changes its outcome.

In general, this concept seems impossible, but is generally accepted as well.

To take it one step further, how do we know that the unobserved is performing "the possible"? We can't know because observing it changes the outcome. Therefore, the impossible may well be happening because we cannot observe it happening.

Where mine is an argument by non-implementation of the Law of Non-Contradiction, that's more an argument by Quantum obfuscation

A different tactic, but still an intriguing one.
A further approach could be "argument" by semantics, whereby we take the most colloquial meaning (not to be done, endured, etc., with any degree of reason or propriety: an impossible situation in iargue's copypasta) and apply that.
Namely that, in that context, an "impossible situation" is perfectly possible, and happens all the time.

[ShadowLink64]

Okay Mom. You've got to go through a lot of my posts, I've done plenty of smiley face posts, and this is the first I've been called on.

I just finished reprimanding someone for spamming smiley faces and then you go and make one. What did you expect me to do? That's why you were "called" on it.

[Jake]

No, by definition, it isn't.

You think you've posed a paradox, where in fact, you're just not thinking adequately around the concept.

Realistically I know many things are impossible but in light of this saying I posted that picture.

[Sweeney]

Realistically I know many things are impossible but in light of this saying I posted that picture.

That's not... oh, forget it. Christ.

[iargue]

We're not talking about the real world. This is a universe where anything is possible.
Ergo, something can be both possible and impossible.

Formal logic does not apply, if you accept as axiomatic that anything is possible.

You explicitly stated by definition. This forgo's all previous rules and you look at it by deffinition only. In diffinition sense only. It cannot be both possible and impossible.

There is no debate whatsoever on this subject. By definition, something cannot be both possible and impossible. As proven by the very definition of Impossible.

[jcrdude]

You explicitly stated by definition. This forgo's all previous rules and you look at it by deffinition only. In diffinition sense only. It cannot be both possible and impossible.

There is no debate whatsoever on this subject. By definition, something cannot be both possible and impossible. As proven by the very definition of Impossible.

Mission: Impossible was actually a possible mission.

It is both Impossible by name and possible in the fact that it was completed. Therefore, both possible and Impossible.

[iargue]

Mission: Impossible was actually a possible mission.

It is both Impossible by name and possible in the fact that it was completed. Therefore, both possible and Impossible.

This is not by definition though. That is by title and action, which are completely separate.

The debate is already over. Stop trying to debate against a fucking definition. It directly says it cannot be possible. There is nothing to debate. Continuing to try and debate will just be retarded. Please. For the sake of everything. Stop it.

[Hawk]

I just finished reprimanding someone for spamming smiley faces and then you go and make one. What did you expect me to do? That's why you were "called" on it.

That kinda came across wrong/I sent the wrong message. Apply it to all posts or ignore it. As an "older" member most people turn their heads, but they really shouldn't.

[Bryan]

This is not by definition though. That is by title and action, which are completely separate.

The debate is already over. Stop trying to debate against a fucking definition. It directly says it cannot be possible. There is nothing to debate. Continuing to try and debate will just be retarded. Please. For the sake of everything. Stop it.

Here you go trying to sound intelligent. In a world where anything is possible, than the definitions of impossible that state 'not possible' obviously do not hold true. Note how the word has more than one definition. If anything is possible, and you take the 6th definition of impossible (the one that states 'objectionable'), than something can both be possible and impossible at the same time. There is no debate because you're wrong. Please. For the sake of everything. Stop it.

What you're trying to do is say that the word impossible must always mean not possible. That's like saying the word pan must always mean the kitchen utensil, as opposed to "to pan for gold" and "to pan iargue for being retarded".

You are wrong, stop trying to be right.

[Sweeney]

You explicitly stated by definition. This forgo's all previous rules and you look at it by deffinition only. In diffinition sense only. It cannot be both possible and impossible.

There is no debate whatsoever on this subject. By definition, something cannot be both possible and impossible. As proven by the very definition of Impossible.

That's a clusterfuck of horseshit.

By definition, in a world where anything is possible, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

[Rambo]

Boring!

[Jake]

That's not... oh, forget it. Christ.

I know what you meant you turd burglar but I'm not trolling over that shit mang

[Sweeney]

I know what you meant you turd burglar but I'm not trolling over that shit mang

I really don't think you do.