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#51 fxckyouguys

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 07:15 PM

Would you consider 5-10 year olds 'little kids'? Or are you talking about like 14 y/os posing infront of mirrors and stuff?



What's the miltary have to do with it?


Uh, both. Sorry, "Minors" trying to be sexy.
And when you're in the military, I believe you go by federal law, not state law. In which case you can't fuck anyone under the age of 18.

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    #52 Trichomes

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 07:17 PM

    I believe that several child porn websites are honeypots. Certain agencies create these websites with explicit material in order to lure the pedos / seedy cunts in. They log the data such as credit cards and shit, and then go get them. One of the famous dudes from the who had it happen to him. He got off scot free because it was "research"


    Ok, that's what I thought you meant. Yeah, of course most of those websites are traps. That's why no one who's actually intelligent (I mean, if you're dumb enough not to protect your anonymity in the first place, not to mention actually pay for any type of porn...) actually visits those websites. I also think there are a lot of sick parents out there who are willing to sell their kids' bodies and innocence to make a buck. Who gives a shit about who LOOKS at CP? And by CP I'm talking children, not sexually mature, post-pubescent teens.

    I think there's a HUGE difference between child pornography and, well, jailbait.

    Edited by Trichomes, 28 August 2010 - 07:23 PM.


    #53 Puppetmaster

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 07:49 PM

    I'd also like to touch on a couple of points here... if two people who are considered under the age of consent are caught having sex, the parents of either party are able to file statutory rape against the other person. I know someone personally who is forever a sex offender for having sex with his gf when they were both 16. Although the parents would have to be real douchebags... it does happen.


    I think the question here is: was the sex there fully consensual? If there was any question in the parent's eyes, then yes, I can see charges being filed. Most sane (not excessively overbearing) parents wouldn't take legal action over consensual sex, but if the guy's actions before the matter or the girl's actions afterwords would give any indication that there should be some concern, things would likely escalate.

    #54 Trichomes

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 07:51 PM

    I still just don't understand how statutory rape has anything to do with CP...

    #55 Boggart

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 07:59 PM

    man I totally missed this convo! man

    #56 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 07:59 PM

    Skimmed through the posts since my last one - will do a proper reply later, but until then, fuck you - it's my thread. I'll rename it to cody licks camel dicks if you dont stfu >:(

    *edit*

    Alright, apolagies, Cody.

    I posted an image before in a thread & Scot labelled it as CP. I thought that it wasn't, just a harmless image that was me mucking around - no harm intended. From that I thought I'd create this thread and see what others would define, i.e my image (for those who saw it) or perhaps other images they've stumbled across online.

    With most of my topics, though, things get side-tracked and ends up on something else. That's fine with me. It's a forum (and apparently creating too many threads if frowned upon) so I thought we should just keep it here.

    I'll create another thread some time with more discussions / topic suggestions.

    Cheers.

    Edited by Jake2, 28 August 2010 - 08:05 PM.


    #57 Boggart

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 08:01 PM

    Would you think there's a lot out there though? You'd think there wouldn't be much, but you neverk now, the internet is huge :/

    #58 Trichomes

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 08:02 PM

    There's plenty.

    #59 Puppetmaster

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 08:04 PM

    I'll rename it to cody licks camel dicks


    DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT!!!

    [Nothing personal Cody; I have nothing but respect for you, but I just find the idea of that as a thread name to be hilarious. Also, it rhymed.]

    Edited by Puppetmaster, 28 August 2010 - 08:05 PM.


    #60 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 08:13 PM

    also, I've refrained from simply reporting this thread as offensive and or illegal because I wanted to talk to you


    Who would you report it to?

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 08:49 PM

    Child Porn rules regarding teen pisses me off.

    14 and under. Yes. I can understand. Girl shouldn't be having sex/showing themselves naked at that age.

    But once you get pass that, you come to the point were you actually start dating people seriously. Girls can be with someone for 2 years or more by this point in time. And the government is like, "ZOMG THIS IS ILLEGAL. HOW DARE THEY BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR BODIES".

    I remember a lawsuit about 16/17 year old girls that took nude pictures of themselves and they were passed around school, and the DA sued them for producing/possession child pornography. They choose to take those pictures. Let them take the pictures.

    Now, its different then having personal pictures for your enjoyment. Obviously 16 year old girls shouldnt be staring in pornography, but they can pose naked for the douchebag that they think loves them. Its called learning.

    Ty society for once again dictating what we can do with our bodies.

    #62 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 08:52 PM

    Child Porn rules regarding teen pisses me off.

    14 and under. Yes. I can understand. Girl shouldn't be having sex/showing themselves naked at that age.

    But once you get pass that, you come to the point were you actually start dating people seriously. Girls can be with someone for 2 years or more by this point in time. And the government is like, "ZOMG THIS IS ILLEGAL. HOW DARE THEY BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR BODIES".

    I remember a lawsuit about 16/17 year old girls that took nude pictures of themselves and they were passed around school, and the DA sued them for producing/possession child pornography. They choose to take those pictures. Let them take the pictures.

    Now, its different then having personal pictures for your enjoyment. Obviously 16 year old girls shouldnt be staring in pornography, but they can pose naked for the douchebag that they think loves them. Its called learning.

    Ty society for once again dictating what we can do with our bodies.


    Thumbs up dude. That is exactly the type of reply I was seeking with this thread.

    Hmm... A girl was on webcam fingering herself & some dude recorded it and sent it 'round her school (and then it leaked to the surrounding schools, including mine) and nothing really came of it. She had to go to the principals office & they called in her parents and had srs discussion about it.. But besides that nothing more happened.

    ^ Do you think more should have happened, such as calling the police? Or is that out of the schools power?

    #63 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:00 PM

    Yes, the school could've called the police. Most of the time though, they figure the embarrassment is punishment enough. Though the kid who recorded and distributed it could have been in some DEEP shit.


    If the girl did that for him though, wouldn't it be fine? Like the recording is probably a technicality, but the actual act of doing it was fine.. right?

    + there was a big ass discussion months ago about some girls parents letting her do n00dz for "art". Big controversy and shit. D: Such a touchy subject.

    There's a good few minutes about pedos with Doug Stanhope doing standup. Anyone seen it?

    #64 Trichomes

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:01 PM

    The problem with this is that a lot of times, children make stupid decisions. Naked photos of them floating around forever isn't a good idea.


    I can vouch for this. There are still photos of me floating around the internet from when i was 15-17, and there's nothing I can do about it.

    #65 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:03 PM

    I can vouch for this. There are still photos of me floating around the internet from when i was 15-17, and there's nothing I can do about it.


    I actually went to your profile to see the pic of you again... lol i'm sketch.

    #66 MsRose

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:05 PM

    I loled at the fact that child pornography is being discussed on a neopet's themed site <_<

    kinda creepy.

    #67 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:06 PM

    I loled at the fact that child pornography is being discussed on a neopet's themed site ../../public/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif


    NC has been barely active lately. Top poster = 20 posts and then everyone else under 10. It's ridiculous. I'm making it my duty to come up with multiple threads daily to increase this figure.

    #68 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:10 PM

    once the nude body is recorded by photograph or digital recording, it becomes illegal. If she were to do it in person... I guess that varies state to state.. but in all cases I can think of. yes... fine.


    If it's filmed for personal use (i.e to fap to later) is it illegal? Like, not distributed. Even with consent of someone say, 16.

    #69 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:16 PM

    The nude photography of anyone under 18 is illegal under federal law. NO EXCEPTIONS.


    Laws and rules are always changing. Tomorrow it will be legal then 2 days later it won't be. It's just a big media trap

    #70 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:23 PM

    No... Child pornography laws and age of consent in America has stayed constant since... I'd say... the Industrial revolution? No... probably more like WWI and WWII days... my point is it's been consistent since it's inception. That's really a stupid argument.


    You're very very knowledgable on said subject. It's quite dodgy.

    #71 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:33 PM

    LOL! I know the law and it's dodgy? It's fucking dodgy you asking about CP and where to find it on a site that attracts children! That's fucking dodgy.

    I know laws about age of consent, etc, as a friend went to prison for having sex with a girl who lied about how old she was. (she was 16 and he was 18). Shit hits home, ya dig?


    If she lied about her age.. How's that his fault? Dude.. That was like a loophole I thought existed.. If she said she's legal thats all that counts.. >_<

    & :( this is a srs conversation! i'm learning shit and there has not been any dodgy images.. i'd say this thread pretty much deserves a sticky.

    also.. even if I didn't have first hand experience... it's called google. It will tell you anything legal you need to know. Promise. ../../public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif


    Fuck that. Could you imagine a yahoo answers question "discuss CP"?

    #72 iargue

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:43 PM

    More importantly of a counter-point though is that child pornographers will claim that they obtained the photo through a proper channel... and not illicitly. Unfortunately... that just isn't the way it works.


    Once again though, people above the age were they learn about sex shouldnt be illegal at all. An 80 year old man can look at a picture of a 16 year old girl all he wants. It doesnt harm her in any way. What causes harm is when a 9 year old is introduced into sex. Looking at a picture of a 9 year old having sex/nude is not only wrong, but its bad for the kid and bad for the person looking.

    Thats when the government should step in. But looking at pictures of a 16 year old girl that she took for someone, is how it should be. She made the choice to share something with someone she should not have. Hopefully she learned her lesson. Its no ones fault but her own.

    But someone under 14 usually hasnt been taught about sex, and whats right and wrong yet. So they are being taken advantage of, and its also morally disgusting to want to look at someone so young. But 16 is past the age of sexual maturity, and so looking at someone with such a fine body is only natural.

    I just have a problem with the age at which they deem its bad. People shouldn't be harassed because their girlfriend who they dated for 2 years had sex with them, and let them take pictures. But if their girlfriend was under 14, then they should both be punished for having sex with someone that young, and for those pictures. And the kid needs a serious talking to about what sex is, and how they should act with sex.

    Sex is natural. Everyone will do it. Most girls these age will have over 10 sexual partners. But they shouldnt start out young. Because thats just going to lead to alot of abuse in their life, and alot of disease spread. IF she wants to be a whore, she can do it when shes older.

    I can vouch for this. There are still photos of me floating around the internet from when i was 15-17, and there's nothing I can do about it.


    Did you learn from your mistake? :p

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:45 PM

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    #74 Jake2

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:45 PM

    Once again though, people above the age were they learn about sex shouldnt be illegal at all. An 80 year old man can look at a picture of a 16 year old girl all he wants. It doesnt harm her in any way. What causes harm is when a 9 year old is introduced into sex. Looking at a picture of a 9 year old having sex/nude is not only wrong, but its bad for the kid and bad for the person looking.

    Thats when the government should step in. But looking at pictures of a 16 year old girl that she took for someone, is how it should be. She made the choice to share something with someone she should not have. Hopefully she learned her lesson. Its no ones fault but her own.

    But someone under 14 usually hasnt been taught about sex, and whats right and wrong yet. So they are being taken advantage of, and its also morally disgusting to want to look at someone so young. But 16 is past the age of sexual maturity, and so looking at someone with such a fine body is only natural.

    I just have a problem with the age at which they deem its bad. People shouldn't be harassed because their girlfriend who they dated for 2 years had sex with them, and let them take pictures. But if their girlfriend was under 14, then they should both be punished for having sex with someone that young, and for those pictures. And the kid needs a serious talking to about what sex is, and how they should act with sex.

    Sex is natural. Everyone will do it. Most girls these age will have over 10 sexual partners. But they shouldnt start out young. Because thats just going to lead to alot of abuse in their life, and alot of disease spread. IF she wants to be a whore, she can do it when shes older.


    Kid you not, you just went up like a billion points in my books. You're pretty much my idol now.

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    Posted 28 August 2010 - 09:46 PM

    On the topic of Child Porn....



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