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[jaredennisclark]

This is related to a previous post of mine.

If I were to have two instances of Abrosia open at once, both logged into different accounts, would this create any sort of conflict? I understand how risky it is, and I understand it will obviously lower my buy speeds. I'm asking this because I have two open and running right now set at 2.5k profit in different shops. One of them has purchased 12 items so far, well the other has purchased none. This doesn't make sense to me considering the shops are foods and bakery.. it's not as if the bakery shop hasn't restocked in the last hour or so. Any ideas as to what could be happening here?

Edited by jaredennisclark, 26 October 2010 - 03:49 PM.

[Elindoril]

I believe they would fight to stay logged in unless you use proxies to keep the IP seperate.

[jcrdude]

I believe they would fight to stay logged in unless you use proxies to keep the IP seperate.

Not with two different accounts. The two Abrosias should act like different browsers...?

[Elindoril]

Not with two different accounts. The two Abrosias should act like different browsers...?

Well, I would assume that Abrosia is a seperate browser in itself, but since there are two copies open, it would act like the same browser being open twice.


I could be wrong, but even then, running on the same IP with two accounts at once is retarded in its own as it is.

[jaredennisclark]

Well, I would assume that Abrosia is a seperate browser in itself, but since there are two copies open, it would act like the same browser being open twice.


I could be wrong, but even then, running on the same IP with two accounts at once is retarded in its own as it is.

Let's try and think of a legit, real-world situation in which one IP would be on two different accounts, restocking in two different shops, shall we? Hmm.. anything come to mind?

I specifically mentioned in my OP that I am aware how risky it is.

Not with two different accounts. The two Abrosias should act like different browsers...?

Yeah, I suppose this is what my question boils down to. Would two Abrosias behave as two different browsers? I'm sure some programmer or coder here familiar with how Abrosia works would be able to give a definite answer.

Edited by jaredennisclark, 26 October 2010 - 03:17 PM.

[xavarn]

I'm 90% sure that when I asked this the answer was no.

[Ubergoldz]

it doesn't create any conflict, i have tried it for ages, even with 3 accounts. haven't been banned yet.

[jaredennisclark]

I'm 90% sure that when I asked this the answer was no.

Do you mean 'no' as in it doesn't behave as two different browsers, thus creating conflict, or 'no' as in it works just fine?

it doesn't create any conflict, i have tried it for ages, even with 3 accounts. haven't been banned yet.

I'm not worried about the ban risk from it, I'm wondering how effective it is. When you run it with 2+ accounts, do you notice that one account AB's normally while the other seems to buy next to nothing? Because that's what has been consistently happening to me.

Edited by jaredennisclark, 26 October 2010 - 03:43 PM.

[Ubergoldz]

yesterday i was running the super/system and restocked 19 items on each abrosias.

[jaredennisclark]

yesterday i was running the super/system and restocked 19 items on each abrosias.

Okay, during my test run Bakery really must not have restocked for an hour or so then. (which is rare for bakery).

Thank you everyone for your input, I appreciate it!

[Sweeney]

Well, I would assume that Abrosia is a seperate browser in itself, but since there are two copies open, it would act like the same browser being open twice.

The same browser open twice, uses different cookies.

[jaredennisclark]

Maybe it did restock. There are several reasons as to why you could have attempted nothing...
1) Nothing profitable restocked.
2) Restocks happened whilst you account was paused after last check.

Considering my settings, I'm not sure about that.
My refresh is very aggressive, and my minim profit is 1.5k..

[Lucian]

Let's say your running more than one AB with different account. Is there anyway that TNT can find out that it's from a single user?

[iargue]

Let's say your running more than one AB with different account. Is there anyway that TNT can find out that it's from a single user?

If both Abrosia's are running from the same IP Address. Certainly.

[Lucian]

But I thought that's what the proxy is for?

[iargue]

But I thought that's what the proxy is for?

I didn't see anything about Proxy in your post.

[Lucian]

I was reading a guide to using an AB and the op said to get a good quality AB that uses a proxy so it makes it harder for TNT to catch you or something. He/She said that Abrosia include all of these things already. So I was just wondering....

[iargue]

I was reading a guide to using an AB and the op said to get a good quality AB that uses a proxy so it makes it harder for TNT to catch you or something. He/She said that Abrosia include all of these things already. So I was just wondering....

Proxies for the most part can make it easier for TNT to catch you if its not very secure. There are plenty of proxies that report they are a proxy and TNT will just freeze you and laugh.

I've never used a proxy unless it was to test and make sure a program worked with it. Proxies are only needed if you want to have a second account do the cheating. As it makes it look like two separate locations. If your just using 1 account, its recommended that you dont use a proxy, as it slows down the page loading, making you less likely to buy stuff.

[Lucian]

Oh ok I get it now.

[jaredennisclark]

DISCLAIMER: I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HOW ABROSIA WORKS FOR MY OPINION TO BE CONSIDERED FACT

Now that that is out of the way, I think the problem is (other than the inherent risks) that your one copy of abrosia logs in and starts running, your other copy logs in and it kicks the other one off.

I'm not sure if it would thus create two separate cookies for neopets, one per browser (in which case clearly only one can be active at one time) or they would share a common cookie.

if they share the same cookie then my idea is that when you log into abrosia using codexchex the second time, it no longer allows you to be an authorized user on the first copy... This would prevent people from sharing their neocodex login info to others and having everyone use a common proxy (or otherwise) I'm going with this answer here <--

But, do note the disclaimer.

I've been experimenting with this a little more, and it does let me through the Codex checks while running multiple copies, and there is no cookie problem as all of my different accounts stay logged in.
The only thing I've noticed is that one of the Abrosia's has a difficult time catching restocks.. it doesn't miss any items, it just seems like the shop doesn't restock for it.. Bear in mind that this was being tested using bakery/foods with a 1000np profit. One Abrosia would have around 40 items after 2 hours, while the other would have maybe 10. Max. This has been consistently happening for me.

[Eggy]

oops wrong thread, plz delete

Edited by Eggy, 01 November 2010 - 02:28 PM.

[jaredennisclark]

either Lord Kass Stamp or Plushie Chombie MP, both with my old Seed AB (which i am updating currently, stay tuned!)

http://www.neocodex....em/page__st__50

[joehazley]

I will run some tests aswell with two different accounts if any success i'll let you know.

[Dayzee]

I honestly know next to nothing about proxies or IP addresses so maybe someone can answer this: if I have two separate NP accounts open on two different computers, both in my home, can TNT tell and freeze me? Would both computers be using the same IP address? Thanks!

[Lucian]

Both computers will be using similar IP Adresses. As far as TNT telling if they're running off of one computer or two, they can't.