Valorous

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• Every bot that was in the old ValorSuite is at least partially implemented in VSW. In most cases just the views (page to edit settings) are not functional or there are minor bugs. It would probably take less than 40 man-hours to have all of the functionality of the original ValorSuite working (besides Shapeshifter -- that requires the desktop client as below).
• If the admins want to package ValorSuite that is fine with me.
• The intention was for users to use their machine as a proxy using a desktop client or other proxy server (of which there are many free open source ones). Buying a proxy was "Plan B".
• There is no way to go back to the old exe. The server that old copies required no longer exists and I do not have the source code to it.
• Pet trainer does not currently train to 3x endurance. I would need dev time to fix this.
• Thank you for the report on deleting your account. I will add this to the top of my to-do list.

Rant warning regarding giving this web application to users:

• Malicious actors will attempt to use it to steal accounts from unwitting users ( www.totallynotVSWdeployedwiththeintentofstealingaccountinformation.com ) causing an enormous shitshow that would damage credibility.
• When it was an exe that users could run I was still in the red on server costs (central server was still needed with the exe) and enough money never came in (still in the red with hosting fees only $1.79/mo)
• It was much harder to debug.
• I considered quitting many times do to a mix of debugging when I have no access to html that is run on clients machines (this will happen again) -- having to remote in to clients machines and general financial problems from server costs.
• Whenever I implemented error logging back to my servers antivirus was flagging on it then I would have to handle correspondence with antivirus companies to clear this (time and money -- money x2 that was not being replaced).
• I also had to deal with the people that criticized running unknown code on their machines then those same types of people criticized having to store neopets accounts credentials securely on my servers when running my binaries could have potentially far worse implications if I were a malicious actor.
• I strongly believe a centralized web application with a desktop client to be the best of all worlds. I am considering switching this to a paid service only with a different pricing scheme to ensure server costs are paid, desktop clients are maintained and buy enough development time to keep the software feature rich and bug free. Payment scheme would likely be $1/mo per Neopets account with some minimum amount ($5/mo?). The free tier would no longer exist.

As of right now I am in the red with this project and I struggle every month to not pull the plug on this project.

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

Ah, I understand. The 'unknown value' item it didn't grab was from the Trick or Treat bags, so it's pretty new. VS will probably 'learn' about it soon then.

 

Thank you for explaining, I understand your reasoning about randomizing the dailies order.

 

Can you have two (or more?) bots that are running in scheduled times that overlap?

For example, the pet trainer and the kad feeder -- so the kad feeder could be checking for hungry kads, but the training bot would also be running and check if it's time to put the pet into training?

 

Thank you for your help, and also thank you for ValorSuite.

 

Absolutely and it is intended to be used that way.

Yes this is possible, but requires some technical knowhow. I believe there are two options: run it through your computer via an application like Squid and keep your computer running basically 24/7 or set up another computer (like a Raspberry Pi) as a server. For what it's worth, the guide @kuwazome worked for me!

 

And I must say, wow @Valorous you are fast! Already implemented a couple things I mentioned. I have one more suggestion:

• The log settings for the main shop autobuyer is very black and white. Either I get drowned in hundreds of pages of log events through verbose logging or basically no information. I was wondering if for the non-verbose log if it can record how many items are in the shop so you at least know it's active. Kind of like in Abrosia there is a number on the bottom right that tells you how many items there are in the shop. 

And one question: When I try to set the pet trainer to run, it immediately disables. I wonder why?

• MSAB request has been completed and added to the pending update.
• Pet trainer fix added to pending update. Good catch.

Released.

Now that I actually have a chance to use ValorSuite Web, I have a few small suggestions to make to improve user friendliness:

 

• Enabling accounts should be in the control page. It's a bit annoying to go into the edit page, save, then check the control page if it's enabled
• The Dailies page is unnecessarily clunky to enable things. Instead of having to go into each daily to check the dropdown box to enable a single daily, maybe have a checkbox with all the dailies together. Just check and uncheck which dailies you want, and save everything all together
• If ValorSuite will only use one time zone, use Neopian Standard Time (since it's also in the game). I do realize that user time zones are being planned
• I missed the inventory control that ValorSuite used to have. I would love to see what's in my inventory and do actions on items all through ValorSuite Web

 

Larger scale issues that I think could be tweaked:

• If there are multiple tools running, like a dailies automator and a SDB pricer going on at the same time, maybe queue the page requests so they aren't concurrent for safety. 
• There should be a button that does the following: I want to run this tool for x amount of hours, start now. Also would be nice to get a timer to see how much time is left for the tool to run.

 

Some things to consider. Great job on ValorSuite Web!

1. Added to to-do list.
2. I can implement this as an enabled button and a save at the bottom. On to-do list.
3. UTC will remain until user's current timezone is implemented.
4. This has long been on the to-do list. It currently exists in my build but is not ready for public use. It will be a new tab under Dalies on the edit account page.
5. They are allowed to be as concurrent as a moderately computer skilled user that creates a bookmarks folder and clicks it to open all things they may frequently visit. Intelligent decisions are more limited in their concurrency.
6. Part 1 is added to my to-do list. Part 2 is added to my priority to-do list.

Can I use this if I use a VPN like tunnelbear? I prefer that over using a proxy plus I'm already paying for that...

If it provides a proxy service then yes.

So as far as I understand: I need to let the daily bot "running" in order to get the snowager daily?

Yes. The daily tool must be running and the snowager daily must be enabled.

Hi there! Just wanted to ask if there is any possibility to add an explanation post of all the things that ValorSuite Web can do. I mean, It's not clear to me exactly how is it working. As example, does it wait for the Snowager to be awake for doing that daily? if so, is it better to let the bot "Running" instead of "following schedule"?

 

Thanks in advance! You have a pretty good website there!

Tools run when their running state is "Running". They wait for the scheduled time when they are "FollowingSchedule".

Some tools have many autonomous submodules that are registered to them. The daily tool is one of these. While its run state is "Running" it will do dailies only when appropriate. In the case of the Snowager it will only do that daily while the Snowager is awake.

I hope this helps.

Now that the desktop version has been discontinued I cant use the web version as my proxies need IP auth. Is there anything I can do about that?

Thanks for all your hard work!

Check your PM. I sent instructions. I'll eventually add them to the proxy page on the web application.

the kad feeder is buying a lot of foods and not feeding anything, is it normal?

Yes. It will simultaneously buy all the food needed and try to feed the kad until it gets its first feed.

I've been dying to use this beauty for some time, but I can't because I gave up on finding a stable proxy. Is there a chance of making it optional? 

From the FAQ:

If you did not use a proxy then all traffic from the server to Neopets would come from the same source. You would be frozen.

ValorSuite uses your supplied proxy server for all functions. It is important to have a fast and reliable proxy provider for ValorSuite.

Well done Valor.

My question is: Will you be adding any color, images or style to the application? Or keeping it monotone

Trying to keep it as minimal as possible. Eventually I will be adding JS for things like a log number indicator (in the menu) and having times for scheduling displayed in the user's timezone.

@Valorous

 

 Is there a possibility the proxy requirement will be taken out of the web application soon? I've searched high and low for a working free proxy and couldn't find one.

Never. If you don't use a proxy all connections would go through my server. If Neopets sees a thousand connections coming from the same IP there would be a chain freeze.

 

I tried to nom different people for all the categories ^^

 

GENERAL

Friendliest Poster: @Prisca
Least Friendly Poster: @Romy
Most Interesting Overall Poster: @Amethyst

 

FORUM
Best Newbie: @Muirex
Most Helpful Member: @Ladida

Best Staff Member: @Emily

Thread of the Year: cooper's poopers scav hunt
Best Display Picture: @jaredyne
Best Signature: @Grumpy
Best User Comeback: @Rocket
Most Missed: @Ali

Best Codex Couple:  Elindornips
 

PERSONALITY / OTHER

Best Programmer: @Dan
Most Likely to Be a Bot: @Valorous
Funniest Member: @Scot
Most Intelligent: @Kaddict
Most Talented: @Jess

Most Adorable: @Trichomes
Hottest Member: @Kate
Biggest Flirt: @Strategist
Stalest Baguette: @Keil
Definitely a Lizard Person: @ortin
Cutest Codex Cat: Zephyr
Cutest Codex Dog: Riley
Most Likely to Survive the Hunger Games: @talbs
Nerdiest Nerd: @KyloRen
Biggest Weeb: @Elindoril

 

FUTURE

Next Mod: @Swar

Next Ban: @Dan lmao

 

OVERALL

Mr. Codex: @Adam

Miss Codex: @Coops

Grumpy Old Person: @Drakonid

Wooden Spoon: @Futurama

The Golden Carrot: @Fikri

 

Probably not a bot.

@Valorous, looks like it is fixed! Everything carried over today. For premium users, is there any way to force the Ninja Training school before level 40?

When did that become an option with Neopets (ninja school before 40)?

https://valorsuite.neocodex.us/

 

Heyo, first up, this program is great and you're great. Second, I'm a dumbass that wants to reinstall after a long time of not having it, but I keep getting an error. I've tried adding in all my exemptions, but alas, I have failed. Pls help

Download the zip to your desktop. Extract it so you have a folder then ValorSuite.exe inside of it. Run ValorSuite.exe.