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If you don't speak English, stay the hell out of America, seriously!


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#351 redlion

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:55 PM

If I go to a store and can't complete a basic transaction without speaking another language, that should be a crime. Everybody should know enough English to get by. If the grammar is wrong but you can still understand what they're saying, that's fine.

Should be is different than is. When you can get an official language bill passed through Congress, let me know. Until then, kindly stop barking up the wrong tree.

#352 Stitches

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:03 PM

Fuck that, you come to England, you learn English. We invented the god damn thing!


Technically you didn't - no one "invented" it. English is of Germanic origin, and borrowed heavily from French and Latin beginning in 1066 until the rise of a common dialect around the 16th century. There is virtually no evidence of it existing before ~450 CE, when Germanic tribes landed in England. That's why English grammar is similar to Germanic languages while so many of our words are borrowed or derived from French and Latin.


As for the rest of this thread, I only made it to the beginning of the second page before wanting to throw my computer, so I'll just leave this here.

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Western white privilege, ladies and gentlemen.


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Give the white some fucking room :)


WOW.

aaaaand I'm out

Edited by Stitches, 19 January 2012 - 10:03 PM.


#353 Bx2

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:45 PM



While I do understand her frustrations, I must say that I completely disagree with this issue. In my opinion, it is this diversity that makes America as unique of a country as it is. While that does inevitablely mean that some prior conceptions will be lost, I feel it is probably for the best as it is a foreshadowing of the global world we are soon to live in. When I heard the term "salad bowl" a year back as the replacement for the traditional "melting pot," I was fairly confused. However, after thinking about it, I feel it forms a better picture of our current society. We are no longer a nation of just one type of person, but rather one consisting of a variety of people.

Ultimately, I am a little shocked by your harsh reaction; though I do understand it fore it is one I have heard before. Hopefully you will come to term with the changes being made, fore I feel that there will be many more in the future.

#354 Frizzle

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 06:45 AM

Technically you didn't - no one "invented" it. English is of Germanic origin, and borrowed heavily from French and Latin beginning in 1066 until the rise of a common dialect around the 16th century. There is virtually no evidence of it existing before ~450 CE, when Germanic tribes landed in England. That's why English grammar is similar to Germanic languages while so many of our words are borrowed or derived from French.


Fair play we borrowed a lot of our language from the French and German, but we're talking about the evolved language the majority of the western world speak.

#355 redlion

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 08:10 PM

Fair play we borrowed a lot of our language from the French and German, but we're talking about the evolved language the majority of the western world speak.

The majority? You must not have heard of South America then. Unless by "western" you mean the USA, Canada and the UK.

"Western Europe" usually includes France, Germany, Italy, etc. while "western" simply means all those countries in the western hemisphere, or even those that were never under a communist (i.e. Eastern) sphere of influence.

Not to mention global usage, in which English is more of a lingua franca than a birth tongue for the vast majority of people. Try again, you nationalist sot.

#356 Maeghan

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:41 AM

If you dont like the ethnic overtake thats happened in your neighborhood, go find a different job.
Because it seems a bit harder for a couple hundred Chinese to learn english, then it is for your to either A) Suck it up or B) Find a different job in a more "american" area. Js.



#357 anbeezy

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 10:29 PM

Ethnocentrism at its finest!

#358 Sage

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:03 PM

Why won't people let this damn thread die?

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 11:29 PM

Why won't people let this damn thread die?


jcrgirl should be proud that this thread has lived for a year :D

#360 namida

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:56 AM

I work at a clothing store in a neighborhood that used to be strictly Italian. Over the years, the neighborhood has basically gone down the shitter. (Well, it's not a bad neighborhood, just a very very Chinese/Mexican one). The old mom and pop shops were bought out by Chinese bakeries, grocery stores, nail salons, hair salons, etc. The neighborhood is now strictly Chinese, Russian, and Mexican. (Most of the Italians who used to frequent the shops moved to another part of the city/ moved out of the state completely).

I think it should seriously be illegal to not know English in America. This neighborhood is so fucking annoying... You can't understand a word these people say. All of the signs are in Chinese, everyone who works at the stores ONLY speaks Chinese and shitty ass broken English where if you ask to buy a tea with lemon, they give you a Pork bun and coffee instead and send you on your merry way going ???? just happened.

The community is so tight-knit that these people don't really feel compelled to learn English, since everything around them is in Chinese anyway. This is what gets me. WHY is this even allowed? How is being spoon-fed helping them contribute to society? I know a lot of them work under-the-table, they don't speak our language for shit, and I see them gambling all of their money away in Off-Track Betting/ Smoking cigarettes in little bakeries like wtf? Most of them are on welfare, too because they don't put their correct amount of income on their taxes since it's off the books most of the time. These peoplDe are here LEGALLY! They all have green cards. Who the fudge let them in?


Do you guys think that learning fundamental English for Immigrants / fluent English for their children is a mandatory requirement for green card eligibility to the United States?
Why/Why Not

we have the same problem with a minority in my country as well....i think that as long as you live in country it's your moral obligation to know and speak that language, have basic knowledge of history and geography etc...I'm half of another minority and I respect my heritage and local culture :)...I think it's the more sensible thing to do :)

#361 Gibby2

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:07 PM

To OP, I really don't understand where you're coming from. Ask yourself this question: do you feel as though you deserve to live in this country and they don't? Why?
And don't say because you were born here.


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