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#51 Sweeney

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:50 PM

Bored.

#52 iargue

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:59 PM

Bored.


A shame. You usually last longer.

Work days over anyways. Cya

Edited by iargue, 28 June 2012 - 02:00 PM.


#53 Maeghan

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:10 PM

I don't think that deserved spoiler tags, it's the best advice I've seen in this thread, by far.


I just wanted to be included in the spoiler fun. :D

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:31 PM

Oh my god, I'm like an expert and huge fan on Harry Potter :D Time to roll up my sleeves:

Here's my reasoning:

They have normal trials because using veritiserum is like the equivalent of torture. I'm sure the human rights laws are completely different in the HP world so...we don't use torture in real life for trials right?

The Thieves downfall was probably created by goblins and the relationships between goblins and humans are hostile at best. Otherwise, humans wouldn't only use Thieves downfall but also powerful steel weapons like Gryffindor's sword and indestructible goblin armors wouldn't they? It was mentioned in the series that goblins did not share their magic with humans and in return, the humans also denied the goblins the secrets of wandlore.

Using an invisible spell would definitely help but assume that the cast time for all spells are the same. By the time you cast it over yourself, you would be stunned by the first curse your opponent uses. Spells can be cast under the invisibility cloak but they also reveal where your location is, such as an arm poking from underneath it. You can't cast a spell through the cloak though; it was stated that the cloak prevented spells targetting it specifically.

The cloak doesn't protect you from death. That was just a legend, like the unbeatable elder wand getting beaten...by Dumbledore vs Grindelwald in 1945.

Edited by wptlzkwjd, 02 July 2012 - 08:34 PM.


#55 iargue

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:53 PM

Oh my god, I'm like an expert and huge fan on Harry Potter :D Time to roll up my sleeves:

Here's my reasoning:

They have normal trials because using veritiserum is like the equivalent of torture. I'm sure the human rights laws are completely different in the HP world so...we don't use torture in real life for trials right?


WHAT THE FUCK? Torture? How? Its fucking painless. Cruciatus Curse is the torture.

Its the equivalent to a lie detector test, which we employ in thousands of cases a day.

The Thieves downfall was probably created by goblins and the relationships between goblins and humans are hostile at best. Otherwise, humans wouldn't only use Thieves downfall but also powerful steel weapons like Gryffindor's sword and indestructible goblin armors wouldn't they? It was mentioned in the series that goblins did not share their magic with humans and in return, the humans also denied the goblins the secrets of wandlore.


Goblins are all about the gold. They do use goblin weapons and armour, there is multiple references to humans having goblin made shit. Goblins will do anything for treasure. Offer them enough and Thieves downfall is yours.

Using an invisible spell would definitely help but assume that the cast time for all spells are the same. By the time you cast it over yourself, you would be stunned by the first curse your opponent uses. Spells can be cast under the invisibility cloak but they also reveal where your location is, such as an arm poking from underneath it. You can't cast a spell through the cloak though; it was stated that the cloak prevented spells targetting it specifically.


You clearly didn't read any of the topic. Casting the spell when you know your going to a fight means you win. When they wanted to get harry in the ministry, invisibility, sneak up, grab shit and kill them. And you can cast spells through a cloak. Look at book 6, dumbledore stuns him under it. So does draco in book 6. If a cloak prevents spells, it would be insanely op. Only your arm could get hit.


The cloak doesn't protect you from death. That was just a legend, like the unbeatable elder wand getting beaten...by Dumbledore vs Grindelwald in 1945.


I fail to see the good of the cloak if it gets countered by so much. It just doesn't decay, and cant have spells cast on it. Big deal.

#56 evilmushrooms92

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:04 AM

The thing that annoyed me was how Fred and George had owned the Marauders map for 5 years and yet never noticed how Ron went to bed every night with a man called Peter Pettigrew

#57 iargue

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:24 AM

The thing that annoyed me was how Fred and George had owned the Marauders map for 5 years and yet never noticed how Ron went to bed every night with a man called Peter Pettigrew


They only had it for 3 years since Ron was at Hogwarts. It doesn't work outside of Hogwarts. And they don't sleep in the same room, since Hogwarts is huge and its hard to read names, they probably just looked at their room and the path to where they wanted to go.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:22 AM

WHAT THE FUCK? Torture? How? Its fucking painless. Cruciatus Curse is the torture.

Its the equivalent to a lie detector test, which we employ in thousands of cases a day.


Not exactly torture in the physical sense, but rather breaking some sort of moral code.

With magic that allows you to do so much, there has to be limits with its use.


I'm not saying that I agree with this viewpoint, but just trying to clear up what they were probably saying.

#59 iargue

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:20 PM

Not exactly torture in the physical sense, but rather breaking some sort of moral code.

With magic that allows you to do so much, there has to be limits with its use.


I'm not saying that I agree with this viewpoint, but just trying to clear up what they were probably saying.


It amounts to a lie detector test. I'm not saying force it on them, I'm saying if they want to take it, let them take it.


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