171 replies to this topic

[Elle]

I think they're disgusting. Not because they're girls and they're doing ungirly things, but because they're humans, and they're doing disgusting things. If your boyfriend was sitting there chewing on his toenails, is that something you'd be appreciative of? Bitch please, i'd make that mofo wash his mouth out with hand sanitizer. Also, they seem to revel in the fact that they have a feral sense of fashion and no self respect.

[Contrasai]

Also, they seem to revel in the fact that they have a feral sense of fashion and no self respect.

What makes you think they have no self-respect?

[Elle]

What makes you think they have no self-respect?

Well this is true, i'm judging their lack of self respect purely by their blog; but i mean c'mon , look at them.

[Contrasai]

Well this is true, i'm judging their lack of self respect purely by their blog; but i mean c'mon , look at them.

The two main girls who run the Tumblr are real life friends of mine. They actually have plenty of self-respect and are both very nice and funny and, in fact, the girl with the tattoo who you all seem to hate thinks that this topic and you people are hilarious.

[Bone]

The two main girls who run the Tumblr are real life friends of mine. They actually have plenty of self-respect and are both very nice and funny and, in fact, the girl with the tattoo who you all seem to hate thinks that this topic and you people are hilarious.

If you didn't want negative attention, you shouldn't have posted it.

[Elle]

The two main girls who run the Tumblr are real life friends of mine. They actually have plenty of self-respect and are both very nice and funny and, in fact, the girl with the tattoo who you all seem to hate thinks that this topic and you people are hilarious.

What does being your friends, and being nice and funny have to do with their self respect? I guess its a mutual thing then, cause i think she's pretty hilarious also.

[Nymh]

The two main girls who run the Tumblr are real life friends of mine. They actually have plenty of self-respect and are both very nice and funny and, in fact, the girl with the tattoo who you all seem to hate thinks that this topic and you people are hilarious.

You jump to a lot of conclusions about how we feel, or if we even care enough to "hate" someone based on superficial judgements that a few people have passed along. That is what she should find hilarious.

[Contrasai]

If you didn't want negative attention, you shouldn't have posted it.

It's not even about that at all. I can handle negative attention. I defended my friends when you(third person) called them ugly and I also tried to point out that some of you are REALLY sexist, whether you mean to be or not. Defending my friends and what the blog is trying to say doesn't mean that I'm whining about the fact that some of you think they're ugly, think the blog is stupid, think that I'm a bitch, or think whatever the fuck it is that you think. I'm defending them and it because I think you're wrong and it's something that I really care about. That is, feminism.

Honestly, I'm just happy that some people saw it and are now following it because it means that my friend will be more motivated to post more hilarious stories and maybe, she'll even get strangers to post, which is great.

[Nymh]

One thing that you might want to consider working on understanding if you plan to do anything like this in the future, is that not everyone holds the same beliefs and ideals as you. Posting something which seemed to be a lighthearted, innocent link-share to a blog which you called "hilarious" is one thing, steering the thread toward a debate on feminism and implying that we are small-minded and sexist because of some things that people have said about the blog is completely something else. And now we find out that these people are your friends. I think it's kind of unfair to come out with this information now, after you've already made this thread into what it is. If people had known that they were your friends, they might have spoken differently of them. If they weren't your friends, you might not have gotten so butthurt about it.

People post negative shit about things all the time on the internet. If people who made videos or blogs spent their time arguing with everyone who posted a negative comment, they would never create anything new. The negativity would consume them.

[Mishelle]

Feminism tends to completely disregard men's issues though so no, I'm not a feminist.

False. Patriarchy and gender roles negatively effect men too.

There's people in every subgroup of people who give the entire group a bad name, I don't understand why people always have to bring up radical feminists in every discussion about feminism. They're a minority.

[Contrasai]

One thing that you might want to consider working on understanding if you plan to do anything like this in the future, is that not everyone holds the same beliefs and ideals as you. Posting something which seemed to be a lighthearted, innocent link-share to a blog which you called "hilarious" is one thing, steering the thread toward a debate on feminism and implying that we are small-minded and sexist because of some things that people have said about the blog is completely something else. And now we find out that these people are your friends. I think it's kind of unfair to come out with this information now, after you've already made this thread into what it is. If people had known that they were your friends, they might have spoken differently of them. If they weren't your friends, you might not have gotten so butthurt about it.

People post negative shit about things all the time on the internet. If people who made videos or blogs spent their time arguing with everyone who posted a negative comment, they would never create anything new. The negativity would consume them.

Because condescending to me is obviously the best way to get me to play nice with people who are pretty incendiary themselves!

I didn't intentionally steer it towards feminism. Everyone was talking about how ugly these women are and how disgusting they are. Since that's ALL anyone was talking about, I wanted to point out that them being disgusting is the point of the whole blog and that conventional beauty is bullshit. I wasn't implying that everyone in the thread is small-minded and sexist. Maybe I was for some people. I actually thought that most of what you had to say was pretty great.

It's not important that they're my friends. I brought it up because Elle said that they look like they have no respect and since I know them in person, I know that they do actually have self-respect. That was the only reason why I brought up that I know them. I don't know all of the girls who have posted on the blog and I think each and every one of them is drop-dead gorgeous and was defending the girls I don't know just as much as the ones I do.

There's a difference between being passionate and being butthurt. I care a shit ton about this stuff and believe in defending it and even dying for it, really. I'm not offended that some people think the girls are ugly or that the blog is stupid. I AM offended by people trying to use the word 'feminist' as an insult. But I'm not butthurt about it.

[Josh]

If you didn't want negative attention, you shouldn't have posted it.

^ Seem to be getting pretty worked up over something you could have just avoided or had closed a long time ago.

[Mishelle]

To all you people who called them gross when I've seen you post about your periods and sex and whatnot in the testosterone and estrogen thread.

[Contrasai]

How do you know I have "ideas" about what a woman should look like?
Just because I don't personally find these women attractive suddenly I am conforming to some stereotype?
You assume that because these particular women don't appeal to my personal taste, that I find the "conventional" woman attractive?
Maybe everyone just has unique taste...

Okay, that's fair. I'm an asshole for assuming things about you. My assumptions are based off of biased observations but it is unfair for me to jump to conclusions. But you're not the only person in the thread who I'm speaking about.

[Nymh]

Because condescending to me is obviously the best way to get me to play nice with people who are pretty incendiary themselves!

You can be passive-aggressive all you like, but if you think I'm being condescending then perhaps that's part of the problem.

[Contrasai]

One thing that you might want to consider working on understanding if you plan to do anything like this in the future, is that not everyone holds the same beliefs and ideals as you.

That actually is pretty damn condescending. I am not an ignorant child. I know that not everyone agrees with me or believes in the same things that I do. But the idea of anyone not believing in women being equal is abhorrent to me and also something I find ridiculous because there's no evidence to believe something like that.

[Mishelle]

Come on guys lets keep it real. If someone called your friend ugly you'd defend them.

And the point of this blog has nothing to do with their attractiveness what so ever. I'm sure you've complimented yourself before, don't jump on them for calling themselves goddesses. I'm a fucking QUEEN.

Edited by Mishelle, 10 September 2012 - 05:37 PM.

[Contrasai]

Ugh.

Why would she even post her friend's tumblr? Seriously.

Because it's funny.

And as Nymh said.. she could have mentioned well beforehand that they were her friends and people may have been more sensitive.

It doesn't matter that they're my friends. I wasn't defending them because they are my friends. I was defending them because I actually think they are beautiful women. Like I said, I don't know all of the girls but I was defending all of them anyway.

Edited by Contrasai, 10 September 2012 - 05:43 PM.

[Mishelle]

People make tumlbrs in the hopes that they'll get more followers. I post my friends tumblrs when they ask me to advertise for them. How was she supposed to know people would immediately start commenting on their looks? Like yeah I get it, not everyone likes to hear about tampon strings and scab picking. And some of the shit I read was downright disgusting. But to take a tumblr made in good fun and to start making negative comments about their personalities and their ~self respect~ is pretty ignorant whether they're her friends or complete strangers.

[Nymh]

I am baffled as to why you are even still arguing. Nymh is trying to HELP you.

Eh, oh well. I guess my style just doesn't come across well with everyone. Can't expect as much anyway.

[Yung]

...this is your friends blog, isn't it?

That explains a lot.

[Drakonid]

I am not an ignorant child.

Don't act as one.

But the idea of anyone not believing in women being equal is abhorrent to me and also something I find ridiculous because there's no evidence to believe something like that.

They are not, deal with it.