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[Kat]

I don't understand the secrecy or why we need arbitrary "awards" for things like coffee. I thought the point of having awards was to showcase members' achievements on the forum. By awarding only yourselves based on criteria you created, and not letting anyone else know what they need to do to get the award, you're kind of taunting us.

 

I agree with this. We've had our fun with the silly awards, and I think that's totally fine because they really haven't been officially announced.. but if you're going to make an arbitrary award for fun at least admit it? *points to Doge award* I'll at least admit this award is bullshit.

[Rocket]

Make this one please. 

 

I think we need a kitty one for our resident cat hoarders lovers

[Dan]

That's the idea I've noticed the raise in activity as well. 

 

Sorry but I think the main reason for the rise in activity is down to that big project that we're all contributing to, not just 'cause of the awards. Especially consider there still hasn't been any announcements about it.... 

 

I actually PM'd Strat earlier today saying I didn't think awards like the 'coffee' one were the right way to go because it enforces the idea of cliques across the staff members. But that's just my opinion, and unfortunately I don't make the decisions round here

 

I don't think hidden awards like that other site is a very good idea at all. It would make far more sense if we offered a set of achievable goals to every member without prejudice. @Trichomes is absolutely right when she says it's taunting.

 

Oh, and no, you can't have my lemon award.

[Rocket]

Should be available for everyone. No exclusivity, please. We have enough of that already. 

 

it was meant as a joke... if anyone loves cats and wants it they could have it.

[Waser Lave]

I don't really see the problem with a few secret awards as long as they're universally achievable. Who doesn't like mysteries?

[Rocket]

If we added every single award people request we would really have arbitrary awards then

 

Still joking, about the cats... kinda

 

Anyways, has it been discussed for regular members to come up with awards (forum related) and staff can vote/veto? I haven't read the entire thread I don't think and/or I have a really bad memory. It's something we can all contribute towards and not just staff (not to make it sound like that's a bad thing or anything) but to help with ideas once the initial wave of awards has been released?

 

edit: I personally think that staff and/or certain major contributors to the site should have their own excuslive awards. It sets them apart from the rest and shows they've made a major contribution to the site in some way (aka @Dan with his lemons)

Edited by Rocket, 01 March 2014 - 12:08 PM.

[Dan]

If we added every single award people request we would really have arbitrary awards then
 
Rocket mentioned your project in her post about activity and that's what I was agreeing to. :3

As I said before (twice), these are not awards for friends. They are just nice little secret achievements that are FORUM related not friendship related. 
There will likely only be one for each staff member with individual criteria but awarding just because we like someone is not going to happen. 

All of the avatars on Neo start out as a secret, are they taunting? No. 
It's just fun, once the secret is out, it's out, it's not like we're going to change the criteria to piss people off.

 
Unfortunately this isn't Neopets where there are thousands of people trying to figure out how to get avatars... This is a neopets cheating community with about 50 active members, and when people see a random award added and handed out to two of the moderators who are very publicly very close friends... well... people are going to say something, right?
 
The fact the award was given to each other through with the reason "xxxx cop needs her coffee heheh" just make it look like it's a special award for only you two.
 
I'm pretty sure this didn't start off as a secret award and you guys are now gonna come up with some random criteria which makes it look like it was
 
 

I don't really see the problem with a few secret awards as long as they're universally achievable. Who doesn't like mysteries?

 
I think the main problem is that there's no announcement explaining any of this yet /shrug 

Keeping them secret is pretty cool, it's could be a nice surprise to log in one day and see you have something new added. 
I don't agree with people having exclusive ones, what is the doge and lemon about? Is it obtainable by anyone else?

 
It has been said multiple times that these are test awards... It's right up there a few posts above.

[Rocket]

I think the main problem is that there's no announcement explaining any of this yet /shrug 

 

let's call it the "beta-testing" phase while staff/mods/whatever figure their award shit out

[Waser Lave]

I think the main problem is that there's no announcement explaining any of this yet /shrug 

Because it's not officially released yet, it's still being tested (hence the test awards).

[Kat]

Keeping them secret is pretty cool, it's could be a nice surprise to log in one day and see you have something new added. 

I don't agree with people having exclusive ones, what is the doge and lemon about? Is it obtainable by anyone else? 

 

Did you read my post?

[Dan]

Well, now you guys know it isn't
Problem solved.

Suuuuuuuuuuure... Whatever you like
 
 

Because it's not officially released yet, it's still being tested (hence the test awards).

Is the badger a test award?

[Rocket]

I think we ALL need to lay off the coffee for a minute and take a deep breath and relax. It's getting a little hostile in here.

 

but also can I add that i like that this is a great conversation and people are saying what's on their mind and no one (seems) to be getting too upset or taking things personal?

[Waser Lave]

Is the badger a test award?

 

Probably, I don't have anything to do with the awards.

 

You should probably stop jumping to conclusions about things so often, it's not good for your health.

[Rocket]

for the record I totally thought it was an exclusivity thing at first, but now that Kate and Emily have explained it, it's no big deal.

 

 

(though in the back of my mind, they probably meant it to be exclusive until someone pointed out they wanted it, then they went oh shit and had to explain themselves and make it something everyone could obtain)

 

 

not judging..

Edited by Rocket, 01 March 2014 - 12:17 PM.

[Dan]

I totally understand why you guys would feel that way and I see how it looked that way, but we've told you that's not the case. 
So there's no need to continue assuming it is That's all I meant.

The fact you two awarded it to each other based on your 'cop' idea... and the fact it's coffee... and cops are known for their coffee...

It just seems like a biiiiig coincidence, Kate, and I don't think I'm the only person to realise it.  

The only reason people are interested in this now is because you're denying it and saying it's some kind of secret award.   

Either way, I hope this award is removed along with the test awards.

 

@Rocket you are spot on...