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#51 Nano

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Posted 16 July 2015 - 04:39 PM

Hide yo kids, hide yo wife. Seriously, I'd avoid going to the neoboards at all. If you have zero presence, the ebil hackers won't even know you exist. Making long posts about this there will just bring the spotlight on you.

 

Sure you can. The neologin cookie stores your username and password. I always check scripts for that before I install them, I've actually seen a kad feeding script that just grabbed that.

 

People need to stop making shit up.

// Set the login cookie.
self::set_login_cookie($NPUser->username, $key, $new_code, $expire);

public static function set_login_cookie($username, $key, $plaintext, $expire) {
if (is_frozen($username)) {
return false;
}
$cookie_value = "{$username}+" . self::cookie_hash_encrypt($key, $plaintext);
setcookie(self::LOGIN_COOKIE_NAME, $cookie_value, $expire, "/", ".neopets.com");
$_COOKIE[self::LOGIN_COOKIE_NAME] = $cookie_value;
}

//Basic function for hashing a cookie value. $key is their password, and
//$plaintext is the cookie_code value.
public static function cookie_hash_encrypt($key, $plaintext) {
$message = "npc_{$key}_{$plaintext}_biglongrandomstringhahalol thecakeisalielolololololol";
return sha1($message);
}

Goodluck trying to crack that. Few years old now. But I assume $message has been changed by now (so don't bother).

 

Yes your password is used, nothing worth spending the money to build a rig to crack it.



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    #52 Cloud9

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    Posted 16 July 2015 - 08:35 PM

    So basically... avoid putting your username out there? D:



    #53 AllTheWayToVictory

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    Posted 16 July 2015 - 10:32 PM

    @Freestyle Excuss me if I sound like a n00b, is that peice of code saying the cookie is generated with our passwords encrypted with some plain text included? And that's how to prevent anyone from retriving the password from the cookie, right?

    #54 Nano

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    Posted 16 July 2015 - 10:38 PM

    @Freestyle Excuss me if I sound like a n00b, is that peice of code saying the cookie is generated with our passwords encrypted with some plain text included? And that's how to prevent anyone from retriving the password from the cookie, right?

     

    That plaintext makes it so much harder to crack a hash. Might be possible if you had access to some sort of super computer.



    #55 AllTheWayToVictory

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    Posted 16 July 2015 - 10:44 PM

    Thanks there, I'm good at programming but somehow I can't deal with web pages and javascripts. And feeling quite surprised when I get a B in security. lol

    #56 Kway

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    Posted 16 July 2015 - 10:55 PM

    I think I have a plan to fix this



    #57 Katya

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 02:07 AM

    So basically... avoid putting your username out there? D:


    Getting in any kind of fraternization inside Neopets it's asking to be iced. :p
    Avoid the boards like the plague and you'll reduce your chances of losing your account tremendously.

    #58 iKate

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 03:10 AM

    Did TNT do anything yet? (unfreezing accounts or so)



    #59 Katya

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 03:34 AM

    Did TNT do anything yet? (unfreezing accounts or so)


    I've been out from Neo for more than 12hours (rl stuff and whatnot :p ), so I have no idea. :/
    In 1hour or so, I'll check out how things are going xD

    #60 Sehunie

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 04:02 AM

    I'm sorry to ask a question that probably sounds really noob, but what is a rollback? :unsure:

    Also, thanks for the warning, I accidentally visited a petlookup one hour ago though, but it looks like Neopets is okay right now?

    Haven't noticed anything weird (yet?), hope everyone's safe now.



    #61 Katya

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 04:31 AM

    @Sehunie you know when you're installing something in your computer you're adviced to make a "restore point" in order to go back to that moment if something goes wrong? A rollback is basically the same, it's returning the Neopets site to a previous point, cancelling everything from that moment until the present.
    The problem: to TNT be able to make a rollback, they had to make a backup (the "restore point") sometime in the previous couple of days, or it would cancel too many stuff and people would be MAD (I'm thinking about pet adoptions and game trophies, especifically).
    Besides I'm guessing this would be too much for their servers (I have no clue if it would affect them, but I always assume the worst), and the site would need to be taken down while the rollback is processed, which means -for a site like Neopets that has a really ancient code- we would spend several days seeing the red pteri of doom. :p
    Regarding the petlook visit, if you're unsure of something, clean your cookies and all that, change password/pin. Better be safe than sorry, right? :)

    #62 Sehunie

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 04:48 AM

    @Sehunie you know when you're installing something in your computer you're adviced to make a "restore point" in order to go back to that moment if something goes wrong? A rollback is basically the same, it's returning the Neopets site to a previous point, cancelling everything from that moment until the present.
    The problem: to TNT be able to make a rollback, they had to make a backup (the "restore point") sometime in the previous couple of days, or it would cancel too many stuff and people would be MAD (I'm thinking about pet adoptions and game trophies, especifically).
    Besides I'm guessing this would be too much for their servers (I have no clue if it would affect them, but I always assume the worst), and the site would need to be taken down while the rollback is processed, which means -for a site like Neopets that has a really ancient code- we would spend several days seeing the red pteri of doom. :p
    Regarding the petlook visit, if you're unsure of something, clean your cookies and all that, change password/pin. Better be safe than sorry, right? :)

    Oh wow, thanks for the explanation!

    I know about backups but didn't link that to the meaning of 'rollback', oops  :mellow:

    I guess I won't try to earn np/avatars in the next few days then, just hoping they won't do a rollback u.u Also changed everything, thanks :)


    Err.

    This suddenly showed up ._. 

    Keeps being there, even when I change pages / refresh.

    ohgod Jumpstart

    11kgzm1.png



    #63 iKate

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 04:52 AM

    I've been out from Neo for more than 12hours (rl stuff and whatnot :p ), so I have no idea. :/
    In 1hour or so, I'll check out how things are going xD

    Haha okay, understandable :p 

     

    Oh wow, thanks for the explanation!

    I know about backups but didn't link that to the meaning of 'rollback', oops  :mellow:

    I guess I won't try to earn np/avatars in the next few days then, just hoping they won't do a rollback u.u Also changed everything, thanks :)


    Err.

    This suddenly showed up ._. 

    Keeps being there, even when I change pages / refresh.

    ohgod Jumpstart

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    Me too lol, I think they're testing out the new daily



    #64 Sehunie

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 04:54 AM

    Haha okay, understandable :p

     

    Me too lol, I think they're testing out the new daily

    Yeah, this just showed up, instead of the grey square:

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    but I can't click on it, lol. JS fails again!



    #65 Katya

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 04:56 AM

    It looks like it's the new daily (my img is not broken).

     

    Right click to see img and...

     

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    #66 iKate

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 04:59 AM

    Ooh it works with me, I can play lol


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    'you've won 0 neopoints' ok awesome


    Edited by iKate, 17 July 2015 - 05:00 AM.


    #67 Katya

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 05:03 AM

    It's not "playable" to me. :(



    #68 Sehunie

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 05:05 AM

    I think it's still bugging, I also won 0 neopoints but can spin again whenever I want. :/



    #69 Ka1

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 05:06 AM

    You've Won!!

    Come back tomorrow and win more prizes!

    0 Neopoints

     

     

    ...

    emm thanks for the 0 np JS

    I got 3 of the same.

     

    Looks like that is what everyone is getting on the boards too

    JS come on can we fix the hacked accounts issue first?


    Edited by Ka1, 17 July 2015 - 05:09 AM.


    #70 iKate

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 05:06 AM

    I think it's still bugging, I also won 0 neopoints but can spin again whenever I want. :/

    Yeah me too, after every spin the page reloads automatically and I can spin again



    #71 Katya

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 06:10 AM

    Returning to the topic, it appear that the freezing wave stopped. But no one got their accounts back yet. It's everything pretty calm, actually.

    There seems to be only one topic active on HC about it where people are basically repeating themselves (TNT should have already made a statement about the issue; not one ticket got a response or is in "progress" so far; yada yada): http://www.neopets.c...topic=157288695

     

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    #72 Eggie

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 06:13 AM

    Neopets has totally lost it's appeal for me lately so I missed this (not that I really have anything for anybody to take in my accounts), but it does sound like some sort of database breach. Reminds me a bit of ad0, actually. At least in those days TNT actually acknowledged their security fuck-up and reinstated everything. Looks like JS is glossing this one over. I'm starting to have zero respect for this company.



    #73 Kraehe

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 06:54 AM

    Thank you for posting information about the "Semi-Neoapocalypse". I was wondering what the boards were abuzz about, especially the fact that some users said they would give items they sniped from the Money Tree to other users who have lost their gallery.

     

    I don't login to Neopets everyday, so when something major comes up I check Codex for the condensed, more entertaining version of the story.  ;)



    #74 Katya

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 06:31 PM

    Thank you for posting information about the "Semi-Neoapocalypse". I was wondering what the boards were abuzz about, especially the fact that some users said they would give items they sniped from the Money Tree to other users who have lost their gallery.

    I don't login to Neopets everyday, so when something major comes up I check Codex for the condensed, more entertaining version of the story. ;)


    Neocodex is the best source of infortainment about Neopets. :p
    Information you can rely on, sprinkled with a dash of fun.

     

    HAW HAW! So many theories and too much crap. xD
    From here http://www.neopets.c...topic=157290214

    This is a big one, I'll have to use spoiler.
    Spoiler



    Only now people think TNT is not thrustworthy? LOL
    From here http://www.neopets.c...topic=157289691

    Spoiler

    I have too much fun with others' despair. :rolleyes:

    #75 Ka1

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    Posted 17 July 2015 - 06:59 PM

    Well i am not even surprised that the rollback has not been done and probably not going to happen

     

    From the TNT official board, I think they are just blaming users for not using strong passwords, pins and all,,,

    That means more drama in future...




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