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The legal letter Neopets sent me.


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#1 Cuteangel333

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Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:34 PM

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My apology:

http://rapidshare.de...pology.doc.html

(notice in point 4, they call me 'her'). I'll try to get the first two pages, but my parents put them away somewhere.

Hehe. Gotta love them crazy Viacom.

Edited by InfamousX241, 15 April 2006 - 03:36 PM.


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    #2 Ilya

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:37 PM

    Wow lol
    They got you...

    Good thing they didnt bill you, because i know lots of people who they bill like $40,000 for doing that..

    Edited by Adobe, 15 April 2006 - 03:38 PM.


    #3 Mr. Hobo

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:38 PM

    #2 is stupid on there part. Everyone I know who is illegit wouldn't drag anyone down with them.

    #4 is also stupid as what's stopping you from lieing about your profit?

    For #5 send them programs infected with viruses and such

    My download limited is maxed out an rapidshare, can you upload on Codex or something?

    #4 Cuteangel333

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:41 PM

    #2 is stupid on there part. Everyone I know who is illegit wouldn't drag anyone down with them.

    #4 is also stupid as what's stopping you from lieing about your profit?

    For #5 send them programs infected with viruses and such

    My download limited is maxed out an rapidshare, can you upload on Codex or something?


    Yeah, I can upload. Haha, for #5 I decided to show off all my programs, but I disabled my AB before I sent it :)

    Edit:

    Oh and for #2, I put names of some people who had been pissing me off (eg. the owner of virtualpetlist.com). Notice how I put the least info about Kaos?

    On pages 1 and 2, they describe what I'd done, all the anti-semetic shit Kaos said whilst in the accounts, and about 30 Canadian laws I'd broken.

    I don't think Neopets has ever sued anyone, whether still under Adam's power or under Viacom.

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    Edited by InfamousX241, 15 April 2006 - 03:46 PM.


    #5 emme80

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:45 PM

    wow... they didn't bill you... strange...

    #6 Mr. Hobo

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:46 PM

    The money from profits went to a local charity J


    Lmao. Wonder if they're stupid enough to believe that.

    #7 Cuteangel333

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:47 PM

    Lmao. Wonder if they're stupid enough to believe that.


    Oh, but it did :cool:

    #8 Mr. Hobo

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:50 PM

    Oh, but it did :cool:


    Well you were talking to TNT so I didn't expect much :p.

    How long were you 'associated' with Chase for?

    #9 Cuteangel333

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:52 PM

    Well you were talking to TNT so I didn't expect much :p.

    How long were you 'associated' with Chase for?


    Until he pretty much snatched a hash from my log, told Oxeh (whom I hate with all my heart) to crack it -- then took full credit.

    I'm glad Neopets didn't know who my real partner the whole time was (who helped me check accounts, crack hashes, etc.), I wouldn't want them to get in shit.

    Edited by InfamousX241, 15 April 2006 - 03:52 PM.


    #10 Waser Lave

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:54 PM

    I didnt know they sent those letters to the non-programmers...i guess they are getting serious now.

    What exactly did you do to get them to start legal action? I'm guessing it wasnt just using abers...

    I'm with Toxic on #2, i wouldnt take anybody down with me if they sent me those kinds of letters and i hope the people who use our programs wouldnt attempt to take us down either...we're all in this together after all.

    #11 foogie

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:57 PM

    :o

    fascinating...

    ...so, this was sent by per regular mail?

    :ninja:

    *laughs at horrible mistaking of gender*
    I really thought that something this important they would check over and make sure it was free of errors... XD

    #12 SupermanFTM

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 03:58 PM

    Definetly not good sir. Anyways, don't most programs have disclaimers for the users now? :p Nice letter btw ;)

    #13 Cuteangel333

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:00 PM

    I didnt know they sent those letters to the non-programmers...i guess they are getting serious now.

    What exactly did you do to get them to start legal action? I'm guessing it wasnt just using abers...

    I'm with Toxic on #2, i wouldnt take anybody down with me if they sent me those kinds of letters and i hope the people who use our programs wouldnt attempt to take us down either...we're all in this together after all.


    What? I am a programmer though :/

    I developed like 10 CGs within one month to continuously bypass their filters. I also made some programs like my Igloo AB, Main Shop AB, Auction Sniper, User shop AB, and the list goes on.

    I have moved on though, sure I'd love to tweak my current AB to parse that new Javascript authentication system they have, but I can't legally :(

    The funny thing is, I could make a new CG for Neopets.com in less than 5 minutes, I can almost guarantee it 100%.

    Edited by InfamousX241, 15 April 2006 - 04:01 PM.


    #14 Waser Lave

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:01 PM

    What? I am a programmer though :/

    I developed like 10 CGs within one month to continuously bypass their filters. I also made some programs like my Igloo AB, Main Shop AB, Auction Sniper, User shop AB, and the list goes on.

    I have moved on though, sure I'd love to tweak my current AB to parse that new Javascript authentication system they have, but I can't legally :(


    Aah didnt realise that...

    I havent even been iced for years so i hope they dont know me yet. :thumbsup:

    (btw, cookie grabbers are stupid...)

    Edited by Laser Wave, 15 April 2006 - 04:02 PM.


    #15 Cuteangel333

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:05 PM

    Jeese, all I got was a few personal warnings/threats, and a site shutdown. Not to mention the 100+ frozen accounts and IP bans. No fair you get all the fun :( You would think they would target programmers more, not the people that use them O_o


    Heh, along with those programs, I had private ones too. That's how I got IP banned.

    I had an NP gen (2000np every 5 seconds), and an account gen which made about 5000 accounts in a few hours.

    I think they finally got sick of it when I gained entry to the mod accounts and locked dozens of boards and whatnot.

    (btw, cookie grabbers are stupid...)


    It worked though, and I was sick of everyone saying "Cookie grabbers are impossible! You can't CG firefox! God is real!" and other bullshit.

    #16 Waser Lave

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:07 PM

    It worked though, and I was sick of everyone saying "Cookie grabbers are impossible! You can't CG firefox! God is real!" and other bullshit.


    The problem i have with things like cookie grabbers is that it targets individuals, whereas programs like main shop autobuyers dont actually harm anybody directly. I just don't agree with things like that at all...

    And yeah, the God is real people are a bit weird :p

    Edited by Laser Wave, 15 April 2006 - 04:07 PM.


    #17 Cuteangel333

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:09 PM

    The problem i have with things like cookie grabbers is that it targets individuals, whereas programs like main shop autobuyers dont actually harm anybody directly. I just don't agree with things like that at all...


    I'll have to agree with you, and I'm pretty sure all the major accounts had the items returned, but for those who didn't:

    Sorry.

    #18 supatyson

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:13 PM

    Now this is why you put in Fake Home Addresses. And Fake emails. Hehe.

    #19 Raui

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:34 PM

    LMAO unlucky Infamous. Waht did your parents say ? I bet if i got one of those letters besides framing it and hanging it up on my wall, i'd get like grounded for years.

    Edit: btw tyson they could see through infamous's proxy (if he uses one) and ring his isp and find out ;)

    #20 shabba

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    Oh dear, well they let you off lightly probably because they realised that pressing charges wouldnt stand a chance in court.

    Ive never heard of any of your programs though, only the cookie grabbers.

    Edited by shabba, 15 April 2006 - 04:41 PM.


    #21 Mitch

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:40 PM

    LMAO unlucky Infamous. Waht did your parents say ? I bet if i got one of those letters besides framing it and hanging it up on my wall, i'd get like grounded for years.


    I would get worse. Bathing with a tooth brush and only a gallon of water. And have to brush my teeth with sand paper and grounded till i am 70.

    #22 Cuteangel333

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:45 PM

    Heh, my parents gave me a little lecture then I was off the hook.

    And I know how they found me. They couldn't find my ISP because I was using a true anonymous IP, and it allowed me to login to Neopets.

    My programs aren't too popular, but I can compile a package of them or something. When my logging app was up, I'd recorded over 2000 items bought with my Igloo AB alone :D

    #23 Ender

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 06:03 PM

    Lol, I found a few XSS holes and contacted them about it via Live Support and they told me to send in a REPORT. I was like WTF? You don't deserve my help.

    #24 Ives

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 06:07 PM

    Damn dude. All I got was a phone call about sockopen.com when they were pissants about that. The guy sounded like he had a watermelon up his ass, and got mad when I said "bullshit." Then they IP banned me. Haha.

    #25 Freddy

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    Posted 15 April 2006 - 06:49 PM

    Neopets is just a bunch of idiots with thier heads all the way up thier asses.


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