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[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Just what would it take? Feel free to come up with multiple scenarios. Personally, I could see it happening. Just no one is bold enough to take the step.

Discuss (totally jacked that from Simon)

[Grizzly]

jack bauer.
gg

[Mr. Hobo]

jack bauer.
gg

Only if Chuck Norris let him.

If the enemie sneaks into Mexico or Canada and subtly gains control they might be able to breach the border and cause some damage. Then you help terrorists bomb police stations and public areas, get Iran to threaten US with Nukes and in the confusion plant bombs throughout the US and use that to further threaten them. I'd go into more detail but I have to sleep so world domination will have to wait a bit

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Personally I see the most likely downfall of the US scenario being one from within. There simply needs to be a personality and philosophy capable of making people care again. With the great division in the nation today, if the climate shifted in a certain direction, I could easily see a force rising that could overwhelm the government forces.

Hell, I could see other country's governments aiding the rebels.

[Cataliste]

Throw a pretzel a George Dubya and its theirs...

[Tetiel]

All you would need is conditions like what happened to the Roman empire. The united states is very strong at this point of time just like the roman empire was about... 60BC. However one needs a lack of patriotism for the US and an enemy who is attacking us for long periods of time. One needs to be a strong enemy to do such a thing. Also the Roman empire did fall for a while but only half of it. An enemy would need to wipe the US completely off the map. For example during the Justinian rule of Rome he conquored almost all of the territory lost 50 years previously. An empire often times lasts for a very long time. Since the US is still a young nation and still full of people who love America then to be honest I cannot really see the downfall of it for a long time. It would take a lot to bring this nation down because be it arrogant or not we are in a sense a superpower just like Rome was in the world... however unlike Rome we do not tend to conquer nations... a shame I say.

[Ives]

Tetiel said it.

[bluewater]

As everyone agrees Tetiel summed it up. No doubt. But do not be told differently, it maybe VERY hard to bring down the US but it can be done. Now how that happens I'm not entirely sure but it can happen... Hopefully it doesn't. WWIII would be upon us than and being in Canada myself that would affect me! Bigtime! lol

[Cataliste]

Everyone is overthinking it. I am telling you, 1 terrorist throws a pretzel and our asses are history.

[Hawk]

For some reason I dont see this as happening any time soon. The major reasons are
1) Naval Strength
2) Ground Forces Strength
3) Airforce Strength

Our Navy is strong enough to demolish the whole world, mainly due to the Nuclear Subs, but in a conventional war we would still kick almost everybodys ass. We have the most advanced and adept navies. I would practically rule out an invasion from over the ocean. If someone did declare war on us they would have to attack by land, or by air (Also pretty difficult with our most advanced fighter jets and stealthy stuff and whatnot). We could pretty much block any ships from entering a zone around Mexico and all other Latin American Countries, all the way down to Panama and up to the highest point of Canada. The Canal would be a good dividing spot, supplies would be difficult to get across there if defended well.

Then our military gets to pick it up. The M1 Abrahms Tank is excellent. In one mission alone back in the 1991 Gulf War a group of 12 or so Tanks took down a convoy of 70+ (History Channel or Discovery Channel Info, I dont remember exact figures) with no casualties to an American.

The American Airforce is also superior to anyone elses. Our stealth bombers will reak havok on any unsuspecting victim leaving only a blip on a radar the same size a bird would make. An F-22 Raptor can easily own the competition. Also, our missles accurate to within several meters, centimeters, or millimeters also favor us. Time to talk about my favorite, the helicopters. In the Gulf War masses of soldiers surrendered to none other than a helicopter. I believe that says enough about it right there. It is one of the most feared weapons in our aresenal becuase of its potential and heavy fire power.

That overall basically rules out the idea of a military takeover and "Conquering of the US". I, however, could see an uprising from the inside occuring much earlier than our military crumbling. Especially with what is housed out in some Nevada test site which few know about.

[Cory]

I would also have to say that I believe the chances of a military take over are very close to 0%. Their is just so much to are side, and their is no human way that our intelligence would over see something like a full out invasion. Even if the intelligence did fail it wouldn't take long for our military to take action.


I honestly believe that the US is to strong for any country to challenge us. Even China. They do have the sever man power, but a good general or admiral wouldn't let their man power affect us. It's really simple for us to sink a ship carrying 5k of their men. So how else would they get any large amount of man power over here?

The only way that we would ever fall would be from with in. Even then though it would be extremely difficult to pull of such a thing.


I do not see the US falling period with anything that is currently possible. Maybe with Extrial terrestrials or something, but not anything humanly possible.

[Rawrr]

3 Canadians With Extra Strong Beer and Hockey Sticks

[Bill]

Lol... ^^ I guess it would be UBER UBER UBER UBER 100x UBER hard. I mean, destroying the US is one thing, but taking control of it is another. It would take too many men for men to overthrow the government and take control of it in the basic warlike way. The only possible way is if some extremely bold, crazy person somehow got ahold of a bomb or some other big explosive and blew up the white house and all of its affiliates. And theres about 99.99999% of that person getting caught long before he/she could carry out the plan.

[Rawrr]

Lol... ^^ I guess it would be UBER UBER UBER UBER 100x UBER hard. I mean, destroying the US is one thing, but taking control of it is another. It would take too many men for men to overthrow the government and take control of it in the basic warlike way. The only possible way is if some extremely bold, crazy person somehow got ahold of a bomb or some other big explosive and blew up the white house and all of its affiliates. And theres about 99.99999% of that person getting caught long before he/she could carry out the plan.

The only problem is the people, have pride for their country, everyone else will revolt to kill this "bold" person

[Bill]

Yeah... exactly. That's why I said that taking over the country is a whole different story than destroying it altogether.

[Gargar]

Everyone is overthinking it. I am telling you, 1 terrorist throws a pretzel and our asses are history.

or just get him to ride a bike on tv again.

[ShadowLink64]

No country has the agricultural resources we have. That's where we have the advantage over every other country - our sheer amount of fertile land. And that's why that, besides annihilating every single person via chemical warfare, we would be very, very, very hard to conquer.

That's particularily true about Canada as well (not sure how much agricultural resources are available, but I know there is a lot). As for land mass, we are the second biggest in the world but a large part of it is permafrost in the Arctic (not very useful).

And for defeating the U.S., it would probably have to be an issue from within to bring it down. But who wants to bring the U.S. down?

[Rawrr]

But who wants to bring the U.S. down?

Do we need to answer this question?

[pyke]

U.S.A simply has tooooo much military power to be taken down in battle. China would declare war and be surronded by Battleships within nuking range the same day xD

[Rawrr]

U.S.A simply has tooooo much military power to be taken down in battle. China would declare war and be surronded by Battleships within nuking range the same day xD

I heard somewhere if all the east asian countries declared war and walked in a straight line, one gunmen, the gunmen would run out of bullets before the people stopped coming

[Mitch]

I heard somewhere if all the east Asian countries declared war and walked in a straight line, one gunmen, the gunmen would run out of bullets before the people stopped coming

Who the fuck needs bullets when you could nade them? Anyways, The government in the USA is just plain fucking retarded. They will take the US down them selves and more than likely terrorists will just give them that extra push. I mean look at the news. They blatantly fucked up on that 'raid' so to make up for what they did they put government above the law. Thats bullshit. Anything illegal found anywhere no matter what, hell if a alien was dealing crack they would bust em right?

Bleh, everything is kept soooo secret to us. Today they swore in that head of CIA or whatever it's called PRIVATELY WTF? Yeah.

Anyways back to the sinister plans. Ummm I guess just keep the government in right now for another 20 years and boom there you go.

[SupermanFTM]

Even so, do you know how much it would take for the entire country to fall? Our people have their own power, fairly seperate from the government. We can't be beat militarly, and our government will always guard their own asses. So even if they are taken out, the people will maintain it like they did during the revolution. Yay for being a superpower!

[Mitch]

Even so, do you know how much it would take for the entire country to fall? Our people have their own power, fairly seperate from the government. We can't be beat militarly, and our government will always guard their own asses. So even if they are taken out, the people will maintain it like they did during the revolution. Yay for being a superpower!

Nah, Someone is going to try to nuke someone and united states will release the fucking 1000+ they have and kill everyone cause there fucking stupid. WHO THE FUCK NEEDS THAT MANY FUCKING NUKES? I mean cmon' 2 Nukes ended a war. NOW WE NEED THOUSANDS OF NUKES?

[Grizzly]

To conquer the United States without blowing it to pieces.. it's not that complicated. You kill our economy.