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[Vegas]

I just read this thing from another site about this. It's kinda interesting.

On one hand gays are people too and should have the same rights as any other human.

On the other hand, will having 2 dads or 2 moms cause some psychological trauma on a kid or turn him anti-social especially when he goes to school and finds out that everybody has 1 mom and 1 dad. I mean I can honestly see kids making fun of a kid for having 2 dads or 2 moms. Is this a wrong position to put a child in?(yeah I know if your getting adopted your probably dont have parents so......)

Wat do you guys think?


Edit:Lol people dont vote witout saying somethin about it, especially if you put no. Say your opinions pussies.

Edited by Spade, 31 January 2007 - 08:13 PM.

[Nick]

Yes. Whatever you read is a lie.

[dolphinbomb]

The idea that it causes psychological trauma to kids is absolute bullshit.

I personally know three people in that kind of situation, and they're healthy, well-adjusted kids. While SOME kids may make fun of them (unlikely), it's nothing that's going to scar them for life

[Mr. Hobo]

Source? Logically speaking that makes sense since kids learn by mimicking their parents. Not talking trauma-wise, wasn't expecting you to post

I don't know were you live but here gay bashing is second to only emo bashing, I think that it has the potential to scar someone iand cause violence (Kid 1: Your mom Kid 2: I have to dads Kid 1: Haha, fag Kid 2: You won't be laughing once I knock your teeth in ) Or something like that, too tired to think, good night people

Edited by Mr. Hobo, 31 January 2007 - 08:16 PM.

[ArchAngel.]

I put no. Not today, not for a while. Society just won't allow for it. We will have traumatized kids, because of their parentage. Kids can't hide this from the world forever. No one would accept it willingly yet. So all of you that say, traumatization is bullshit, think again.

[Vegas]

The source isnt scientifical opinions or nothing. I just got it off this music board where this guy was talking about it.

[dolphinbomb]

I put no. Not today, not for a while. Society just won't allow for it. We will have traumatized kids, because of their parentage. Kids can't hide this from the world forever. No one would accept it willingly yet. So all of you that say, traumatization is bullshit, think again.

Let me know when you get back from the 1950's

[ArchAngel.]

Wtf, are you kidding me? The hazing kids get for being gay/having gay parents is brutal. It still happens...

[Vegas]

Heres something I just found about some pros and cons on gay adoption. Now the source aint exactly the most reliable looking but it does throw out some points out there.

Link

Some other articles-
http://www.thefirstp...e...&subID=1080
http://www.idebate.o....php?topicID=51

Edited by Spade, 31 January 2007 - 08:36 PM.

[Grizzly]

Um, absolutely.

If we're really going to disallow this according to the cons on the website Spage gave.. any unwealthy or single parent would not be allowed to adopt either.

[Nick]

Wtf, are you kidding me? The hazing kids get for being gay/having gay parents is brutal. It still happens...

Same with the hazing that a "nerd" gets or that a "kike" gets or anyone from a minority. Basically what you've stated is that minorities should not be allowed to adopt children, which basically translates to: "Only white heterosexual parents should be allowed to adopt children." Your viewpoint has the logical equivalence of that statement.

[ArchAngel.]

There is no racial hazing anymore. Just homosexual hazing. Where I live, that's the only thing that happens, and that may be because I live with a bunch of rich kids, but from experience, it's just not your time.

[Nick]

There is no racial hazing anymore. Just homosexual hazing. Where I live, that's the only thing that happens, and that may be because I live with a bunch of rich kids, but from experience, it's just not your time.

Not our time? So, basically, what you're saying is that because I happen to be attracted to men rather than women I shouldn't be given the same rights as you? That, even though I may be smarter, kinder, and of greater good to society, I am a second class citizen. You disgust me.

Also, to say there is no racial hazing anymore further proves how ignorant you are. Why, just to give you an example of how prominent racism is in today's society, look at Canada. Yesterday, Herouxville, a town in Quebec was found to have posted on their town website a declaration stating that new immigrants and foreigners were not allowed to stone women, burn them alive, or throw acid on them. This was a direct attack at the cultures of these immigrants, and all this came from a country that openly supports gay and lesbian rights. You have a very limited experience to work with, just so you know. You've clearly grown up in a closed society seeing as you "live with a bunch of rich kids," and therefore you have no idea what's out in the world.

[ArchAngel.]

Not our time? So, basically, what you're saying is that because I happen to be attracted to men rather than women I shouldn't be given the same rights as you? That, even though I may be smarter, kinder, and of greater good to society, I am a second class citizen. You disgust me.

Also, to say there is no racial hazing anymore further proves how ignorant you are. Why, just to give you an example of how prominent racism is in today's society, look at Canada. Yesterday, Herouxville, a town in Quebec was found to have posted on their town website a declaration stating that new immigrants and foreigners were not allowed to stone women, burn them alive, or throw acid on them. This was a direct attack at the cultures of these immigrants, and all this came from a country that openly supports gay and lesbian rights. You have a very limited experience to work with, just so you know. You've clearly grown up in a closed society seeing as you "live with a bunch of rich kids," and therefore you have no idea what's out in the world.

Wow. Don't jump to conclusions. I hate when you do that. I said it wasn't your time as in society isn't ready to accept it. You're saying that you may be a better person doesn't change anything. Everything takes time, accept it. Nothing happens overnight, slavery, the KKK, black civil rights. None of that happened overnight. You act as though a direct approval of gay/lesbian adoption across the entire world would be fine. That no rights, innocent deaths, chaos would ensue. Well you're wrong. Calm down and let the world come to that point when it's good and ready.

Edited by Prince, 31 January 2007 - 08:59 PM.

[ArchAngel.]

Sorry. He just pisses me off when he says stuff like that. Especially since he tried to pull that stunt in the religious thread.
It's been edited.

[bjquick]

yer i see where every1 is coming from but recently my good friend that is gay , hes around 30 yrs old and he and his bf wanted a child and they were talking to theirlesbein ( neva can spell it write ) friends and they wanted a child too so they had 1 together with a turkey baster . and the child is pefectly normal he spends the same amout of time with the parents and it hasnt effected him in 1 way. if a child was adopted by gays i dont think it would effect him that much to the age of 10,11,12 . he might get picked on but it wont effect him that much.

so i think gays should adopt

[Cam]

No..
I personally wouldn't want gay parents.. that would be disgusting..
thats just me..

[bjquick]

yer i probably should do spelling checks cause i;m a terrible speller , good at maths and sciences but i suck ass at english. but hey i want to been an accountant , u only need to be good at maths and be a good golfer to get places .

[Waser Lave]

If the parents agree then sure, but otherwise no. If you don't want to contribute to the survival of the human race then you don't deserve children.

[Frizzle]

No, if someone can't sort out their own ill-adjusted life that's practically messed up, they don't deserve to have children full stop. Infact they don't deserve the same rights as us non-diseased people.

[pyke]

If the parents agree then sure, but otherwise no. If you don't want to contribute to the survival of the human race then you don't deserve children.

The worlds over populated at any rate. There are plenty of children that need homes.

No, if someone can't sort out their own ill-adjusted life that's practically messed up, they don't deserve to have children full stop. Infact they don't deserve the same rights as us non-diseased people.

Diseased?

[Chris]

No, if someone can't sort out their own ill-adjusted life that's practically messed up, they don't deserve to have children full stop. Infact they don't deserve the same rights as us non-diseased people.

<3 old-man-frizzle

i agree with prince as well, so dont flame him- he shouldnt be attacked because most everything is right.

i wonder how much flaming will go on in this topic

[Neo]

I think they should. Its just for some reason quite a few people I have had a conversation with about this seem to imagine homosexual parents wanting to do sexual things to their adopted child Which is very sad that some people have come to perceive this

They have as much right as anyone else.

Would you like being taken from care home to care home all your childhood confused and feeling unwanted?

If I were a child I would much rather be in a stable household with homosexual parents, happy.

Edited by Neo, 01 February 2007 - 05:42 AM.

[Frizzle]

Diseased?

Homosexuality is a disease.