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[Hater_Boxden]

Didn't we have them down once? I personally agree that cursing shouldnt be used in intelligent conversations but its equally annoying to see bark and crabnberries everywhere it creates an atmosphere that we cannot be trusted to keep ourselves civil. Just let people say what they want especially since i have known the word f uck since 1st or 2nd Grade.

[Warlord]

I have a question. Why do any of those words need to be said in the first place? They don't add to your post at all and it doesn't make you cool to use them.

Because not everybody here can write a term papers for every post. So we express our frustration with cursing. Got a problem with that?

Cursing is cool, don't be a tightass.

excuse me? I have a very expansive vocabulary, and I really don't use expletives as much as it seems. I really only use them when I'm incredibly irate, and don't give a fuck about anything other than my current anger. They don't show immaturity and lack of a 'good' vocabulary, they show emotion. It's like trying to filter the word 'like'. I've actually found the two are damn near interchangeable in modern society.

His argument kicks mine's ass V_V

[Josh21227]

o.o Well, if the owners of the forum added them they should stay. The owners can do whatever they want on the site. Thats just my opinion. I don't really post much, so it doesn't matter to me.

[Black Flame]

Words other than bark can be used when you're expressing anger. It's not only incredibly rude to curse, but it makes you look like an idiot. What's happening is that society is quickly erasing this moral and so people feel it's safe to justify the use of it. I know you have said it once in front of an older couple and they have said something like "Watch your mouth young man", or something related to that, it's because they actually know and respect this moral. I'm not against cursing around friends and stuff, I do it sometimes as well, but in public places it's just plain rude to curse.

I agree with that. I usually swear in front of my friends vice versa. I never swear in public cause, like you said Josh, it's rude and unnecessary. I also don't swear in front of my family. They swear in front of me, but I just choose not to swear in front of them. There's also the fact I'm afraid how they'll react if I do ever swear in front of them

[Bryan]

Honestly there is no real use in profanity. The majority of times it's used, it doesn't make sense, and it makes you sound stupid. Case in point... look at any MTV/VH1 Reality show, it's amazing how the combinations of "beep" and their extremely limited vocabulary reveal how uneducated they are. In fact, I just turned the channel to VH1 and watched Charm School for about 10 minutes. Here's some amazingly educated statements...

"You don't know me "beep", you don't know me."
- Said in response to a remark about her physical appearance.

"That "beep" better back the "beep" back."
- Said in response to allegations of theft

In short, using profanity doesn't contribute to your speech. It doesn't show you're angry, just the fact that you have nothing to say and resort to spurting out words in order to win an argument.

The filters should stay, there's no real reason to remove them. They don't harm nor help the community.

[Hawk]

All the racial slurs and bad words in this thread are making me upset. > I think the filter should remain. You are all potty mouths.

[redlion]

Someone should make a modification where the users have the ability to choose whether they want the filter enabled or not. If they are offended by the use of profanity, they wouldn't have to read it.

I'm in favor.

One the one hand, its freedom of speech, freedom of expression, free press, etc.

On the other, we're a forum about a game predominantly for young people, and thus the average age here is around 12-13.

Its a conundrum.

[Bryan]

I guess what most people need to learn is that that rights guaranteed by the first amendment only apply as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. Using profanity in situations that will effect children in a negative way is infringing on those rights. That's what filters are for.

But of course, I'm not outright supporting censorship either.

[sockopen]

I'm in favor.

One the one hand, its freedom of speech, freedom of expression, free press, etc.

On the other, we're a forum about a game predominantly for young people, and thus the average age here is around 12-13.

Its a conundrum.

I really don't think the average age is that low... at all.

[nox]

On the other, we're a forum about a game predominantly for young people, and thus the average age here is around 12-13.

the legal age to view this forum is 13

Edited by nox, 04 June 2007 - 07:40 PM.

[Bryan]

Have you turned your television onto a national station any time recently?

It is the job of the parent to monitor their child's online activity, and not the responsibility of the community. It's the same with television viewing, it is the job of the parent to ensure that their child doesn't see nudity or excessive cursing by monitoring them.

Read my last post above that. It is not the job of a parent to ensure a child does not view things deemed inappropriate, hence why we have Rated R movies, rated M games. Why do you think PG-13 Movies can't have more than 3 f-bombs in them? It's all filtering, you're just complaining because it's affecting you in a way you feel is a hindrance.

[Ives]

I have a question. Why do any of those words need to be said in the first place? They don't add to your post at all and it doesn't make you cool to use them.

Because they get the point across faster. They wouldnt be considered curse words were it not for the fact human beings like to put a stigma around sex, scatology, and anything their God doesn't want.

Theyre just words. Idiots like to make stupidity when using them, so its assumed the word is the root of the problem, but its more or less the context.

Edited by Athean, 04 June 2007 - 08:26 PM.

[Ives]

Same with fat people. Being fat used to be a sign of wealth or a sign that your a laid back funny son of a bitch, but thanks to the fitness revolution of the 80s, being fat is now shrugged upon, and fat people are more likely to commit suicide than say, someone who needs to gain weight or someone whos muscular. I'm not condoning being unhealthily obese, but making fun of someone because hes a little overweight or has a big head is absurd.

Edited by Athean, 04 June 2007 - 08:50 PM.

[Ives]

It was offered to do so several times before. I dont know why its never been instated.

Another problem is the fact some people on the forum do have parental censors, to where they cant visit any site with the "curse words on it." So if they could flip a button on or off, it would be less of a hassle for all of us who like to hear the intention and others to blisffully ignore what they think can be ridiculous immaturity.

[Stephen]

fuck

[Kimoflea]

Guys, creative swearing. Slagmonkey. Cockbadger. Expand your minds past the filters!

[Frizzle]

If they like seeing f.uck, bitch, ass, and c.unt on their boards, then they can enjoy it by themselves, because personally I think that's just plain sick and disgusting and only reflects their inner character.

That's only because you've been influenced by the taboo of swearing through direct and indirect causes as those particular words being "bad and vulgar" words. In one context they are, I agree, but most people, myself included use them for ease of usage, it saves me time thinking of a more educated and proper word. We're on a forum remember, not an English test.

[Charmender]

Words other than bark can be used when you're expressing anger. It's not only incredibly rude to curse, but it makes you look like an idiot. What's happening is that society is quickly erasing this moral and so people feel it's safe to justify the use of it. I know you have said it once in front of an older couple and they have said something like "Watch your mouth young man", or something related to that, it's because they actually know and respect this moral. I'm not against cursing around friends and stuff, I do it sometimes as well, but in public places it's just plain rude to curse.

I honestly don't want to hear the freedom of speech sympathy. Not that it's a bad thing, but honestly, it's common sense to control your mouth. I very much dislike people that do rude and obnoxious things and then flag freedom of speech, it's just downright immature. Honestly, in my vocabulary damn is not a "WHAT DID YOU SAY!?" kind of work, whereas bark is. You have to admit that there is a common moral of what should and shouldn't be used in certain areas. For instance if you drop your drink in a book store and say "damn", you're most likely not going to catch a lot of attention. Whereas if you instead said "barking shit", you'll most likely get a word or two, or at least a turning head. That's my point, that it's not necessary to say words like bark in a public place.

I think the statement that it is rude to curse is well rather stupid to be honest, swearing is everywhere in modern day life, and it has lost what little shock value it may have had, most people accept it as normal language now, for who is to say what a "swear" word is, if i were to say to someone, "You piece of excrement", it would sound alot more vulgar than shit in my opinion, also why is "fuck" considered a swearword, when "bone" or "bang" isn't? they can be used in exactly the same context, "Go fuck yourself"/"Go bone yourself".
Yes the bone one sounds alot less "angry" or "rude" but do you know why this is?
Ill tell you why, because the word "fuck" has been labeled as a swear word, so more people use it to offend than they do other words.
Its all about your perception of words, i personally dont mind the occasional "shit", or "fuck" when something calls for it. i wouldnt say "oh crap" if i just dropped a £400 phone into a lake, I don't think anyone would.
Its not for lack of vocabulary, its for the fact that a short word expresses your emotions very well. "damn" is not compariable to "fuck" in any way.
You say damn if you lose a £5 bet, it just doesnt cut it if you lost a £500 bet.
So it is nessicary in some cases to use profanitys in public, And whether you like it or not, people are always going to use them, as they have become more and more socially acceptable.

[Ives]

No, I have not been influenced, you have. It didn't use to be like this, only recently I have noticed that people honestly don't care what they say. It's just like how I hardly see any people hold doors open for people, it's just slowly being erased, and those who try to justify it only assume the other person has been "influenced" that the words are wrong.

The not caring about what they say bit doesn't come from the words they use, but rather the "LIFE IS SHORT, SO LETS MESS IT UP" mindset teenagers and a large portion of society love to embrace. There is such thing as overusing the words, which is bad not because of the language, but because of the fact the terms they will use are incredibly liberal, and could lead to incoherency.

Edited by Athean, 05 June 2007 - 07:45 AM.

[Frizzle]

No, I have not been influenced, you have.

You've not been influenced? At all? Ever. That's a ridicilious statement.

[Mr. Hobo]

Fornication Under Consent of King you all!

[danupsher]

what swear filter? any spaz can beat it.

Edited by Sean, 05 June 2007 - 02:11 PM.

[Hawk]

I can't believe any of you are allowed to post half of this stuff.

fuck yo filter, nigga.

ƒuck you filter, пigga

nigga plz

cunt fuck

what swear filter? any spaz can beat it.

Neocodex does not tolerate discrimination of any kind so please refrain from it.

* We do not tolerate any type of discrimination. This includes, but is not limited to, any form of racism, sexism, and/or stereotyping of any group.

Edited by Hawk, 05 June 2007 - 01:42 PM.

[Hawk]

I was responding to someone asking what words are filtered... I never directly applied any term to any single person in order to discriminate against them.

Still, you're using derogatory terms. It really isn't needed here.

-removes one quote where you were telling someone the censored words-