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#1 Alex

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:54 PM

Lets just set a date for the closing and get it over with

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    #2 Tyler.

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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:55 PM

    12/21/2012?

    #3 pyke

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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:56 PM

    Needs a few more members and some work done on it.

    Know anyone? tongue.gif

    #4 Justin

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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:57 PM

    Needs more Justin.

    #5 Tetiel

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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:58 PM

    If I had a nickle for every time I heard that I'd have... 8 nickles.

    #6 Waser Lave

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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 05:59 PM

    QUOTE (pyke @ Apr 8 2009, 02:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Needs a few more members and some work done on it.

    Know anyone? tongue.gif


    I heard there were plans for a summer revival of sorts, although I may have just made that up. lookaround.gif

    #7 Alex

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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:01 PM

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    50,000 people used to live here.
    now it's a ghost town.
    our so called leaders prostituted us to the west, destroyed our culture, our economies...our honour.


    cod4 intro applies well

    #8 pyke

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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:08 PM

    QUOTE (Waser Lave @ Apr 7 2009, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I heard there were plans for a summer revival of sorts, although I may have just made that up. lookaround.gif

    We make that up every summer! tongue.gif (srsly though, there should be some stuff on its way)

    QUOTE (Alex @ Apr 7 2009, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    cod4 intro applies well

    We never had 50,000 and I don't think we've cost you any honor.

    #9 Alex

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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 06:13 PM

    QUOTE (pyke @ Apr 7 2009, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    We make that up every summer! tongue.gif (srsly though, there should be some stuff on its way)


    We never had 50,000 and I don't think we've cost you any honor.

    it was symbolic!

    seriously:
    - admins and founders gone
    - no serious programmers remain. most programs outdated. no big projects going on
    - most days the only posts are from neopets/lpc and most of us have stopped playing those
    - a lot of members gone/inactive


    I know everyone feels it. codex is like toppled, heavy breathing horse that broke a leg after a race.
    with every day, there's less reason to visit and click that new posts button

    Edited by Alex, 07 April 2009 - 06:14 PM.


    #10 Cory

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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 07:57 PM

    QUOTE (Tyler. @ Apr 7 2009, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    12/21/2012?


    o god this is win.


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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 08:34 PM

    QUOTE (Tyler. @ Apr 8 2009, 04:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    12/21/2012?


    wat are u doin
    there is only 12 month
    so how can u close codex on 12 of 21 month
    oh udont want to close codex lol this it yes

    #12 Ives

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    Posted 07 April 2009 - 08:46 PM

    Cant do 12/21/12, gonna see doug stanhopes end of the earth concert.

    #13 dolphinbomb

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    Posted 08 April 2009 - 02:13 AM

    You should make me admin.

    I'll solve all our problems.

    #14 Kail

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    Posted 08 April 2009 - 03:02 AM

    Where is hydro anyways?


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    #15 Cassy

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    Posted 08 April 2009 - 02:00 PM

    I think codex needs:

    Neoboard advertising (My friends once advertised her site on neopets and got over 60 users in a few hours)
    Skins and other stuff.

    Can't think of anything else, most neo forums I know nowadays have let themselves go...

    Edited by Cassy, 08 April 2009 - 02:01 PM.


    #16 Robawtic

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    Posted 08 April 2009 - 03:31 PM

    Maybe I'll get bored and write a program


    #17 Wicked

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    Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:29 PM

    yeah.. Hydro has been gone for a while..

    #18 ToxicS

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    Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:46 PM

    it's dead? ohmy.gif

    #19 ericcc

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    Posted 08 April 2009 - 09:52 PM

    topics about codex being dead get the most activity
    lol

    #20 ShadowLink64

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    Posted 09 April 2009 - 12:31 AM

    QUOTE (Kitsune @ Apr 8 2009, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Neoboard advertising is not generally a good idea, and will not be condoned by staff. It might get you members, it also attracts attention from TNT that we do not want. We're generally a site that goes under their radar most of the time because we don't actively piss them off.

    There are times to use Neoboard advertising, believe it or not. It seems to work well when a very popular feature is revealed on the site, like the plot decoders. When padora and I ran the MSN group spammers, the site's traffic, registrations, and number of backlinks seemed to increase, with the backlinks giving us a new source of permanent traffic.

    Google ranks websites primarily based on how "popular" they are (ie. how many other sites link to that site). Our Yahoo Answer/Neoboard spamming boosted that quite a bit. Look at around February 8th, 2008 in Google Analytics (you should have access to it). Notice the spike, and how the site's traffic hasn't really returned to the level it has yet (which I seem to think is because of our increased rank in the search engines from having these extra backlinks). You can take a look under "Traffic Sources" to see that the various yahoo and msn domains were sending us almost as much traffic as google was.

    I think the reason why we're not seeing the effects of this "increased permanent traffic" anymore is because users are bouncing from the site like crazy. There's nothing here that they see interest in because as soon as they visit the site, they disappear. Our bounce rate was good when the plot was happening because we made it pretty clear where to get everything.

    Also, I think TNT gets pissed off when blatantly illegal activity is happening, like the sale of neopoints or any other elements of their intellectual property. Designing bots to "use" their site in a public manner (much like how anyone else would with a browser) is seemingly minor to them in the grand scheme of things, just from looking at history.

    QUOTE (Toxic-Snipe @ Apr 8 2009, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    it's dead? ohmy.gif

    There is no longer an active administration (as in actively planning and coordinating the creation or improvement of new services), an active tech to fix the forum software's problems, and content generation has pretty much grinded to a halt. There are also some deep-rooted problems as far as the staff goes, with the leadership disagreeing with each other on many things.

    But the site is not dead. wink.gif DNS servers are still making requests for Neocodex.us point to the right place, the hosting is still being paid for, and the forum software is still (for the most part) usable....

    #21 sonic

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    Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:05 AM

    QUOTE (ShadowLink64 @ Apr 9 2009, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    There are times to use Neoboard advertising, believe it or not. It seems to work well when a very popular feature is revealed on the site, like the plot decoders. When padora and I ran the MSN group spammers, the site's traffic, registrations, and number of backlinks seemed to increase, with the backlinks giving us a new source of permanent traffic.

    Google ranks websites primarily based on how "popular" they are (ie. how many other sites link to that site). Our Yahoo Answer/Neoboard spamming boosted that quite a bit. Look at around February 8th, 2008 in Google Analytics (you should have access to it). Notice the spike, and how the site's traffic hasn't really returned to the level it has yet (which I seem to think is because of our increased rank in the search engines from having these extra backlinks). You can take a look under "Traffic Sources" to see that the various yahoo and msn domains were sending us almost as much traffic as google was.

    I think the reason why we're not seeing the effects of this "increased permanent traffic" anymore is because users are bouncing from the site like crazy. There's nothing here that they see interest in because as soon as they visit the site, they disappear. Our bounce rate was good when the plot was happening because we made it pretty clear where to get everything.

    Also, I think TNT gets pissed off when blatantly illegal activity is happening, like the sale of neopoints or any other elements of their intellectual property. Designing bots to "use" their site in a public manner (much like how anyone else would with a browser) is seemingly minor to them in the grand scheme of things, just from looking at history.


    There is no longer an active administration (as in actively planning and coordinating the creation or improvement of new services), an active tech to fix the forum software's problems, and content generation has pretty much grinded to a halt. There are also some deep-rooted problems as far as the staff goes, with the leadership disagreeing with each other on many things.

    But the site is not dead. wink.gif DNS servers are still making requests for Neocodex.us point to the right place, the hosting is still being paid for, and the forum software is still (for the most part) usable....

    Come Back SL!!!!!!!

    #22 Wicked

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    Posted 09 April 2009 - 09:09 AM

    QUOTE (sonic @ Apr 9 2009, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Come Back SL!!!!!!!

    seriously, it would be nice if you could ; ;

    #23 Stephen

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    Posted 09 April 2009 - 11:07 AM

    QUOTE (Tetiel @ Apr 8 2009, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    If I had a nickle for every time I heard that I'd have... 8 nickles.

    With all due respect though, Tetiel, this time it is closer to being dead than ever before.

    QUOTE (Kitsune @ Apr 9 2009, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Neoboard advertising is not generally a good idea, and will not be condoned by staff. It might get you members, it also attracts attention from TNT that we do not want. We're generally a site that goes under their radar most of the time because we don't actively piss them off.

    If TNT were ever planning to do anything about NeoCodex they would have done it years ago. Look at us now, Kitsune. We're washed up.

    I have no reason to post, and in reality, no real reason to want to come here anymore. I haven't really played NeoPets since the month after I joined, and the majority of members I do, or at least used to speak to have left also, which definitely doesn't help the matter. On top of that, NeoPets is rather old - the cheating scene also. For most programmers, it is child's play to code a program for NeoPets, and there is nothing to gain except a little fame from quiet communities founded by people who rarely play NeoPets anymore, if at all. There is really no where else for Codex to proceed now besides backwards - Codex gracefully reached it's peak in late '04 - early '05 and has rapidly fell to a rock bottom low. In all honesty, I even think the website was more active when it first formed

    A lot of the staff (there are of course particular staff members I dislike, and yes, this is directed towards you) shouldn't be where they are right now, and from what I have heard constantly argue, or at least have conflicting opinions on future of NeoCodex. There is no futural structure for the website, no devoted admins coding scripts, programs, or dedicating considerable time to the community.

    The site has really only gone downhill since SL64 and Noitidart left the staff team - but what else can I say, they were really the only ones putting in great effort.

    - Stephen



    #24 Cassy

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    Posted 10 April 2009 - 06:09 AM

    I normally find that mods similar to this:

    http://mods.invision...ndex.php/f/8337


    Increase the activity tenfold. tongue.gif To find new topics you use the 'view new posts' button which you can only do every 20? seconds. With this, it's just click and go.

    Edited by Cassy, 10 April 2009 - 06:10 AM.


    #25 Tetiel

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    Posted 10 April 2009 - 07:12 AM

    QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 9 2009, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    With all due respect though, Tetiel, this time it is closer to being dead than ever before.

    With all due respect, that doesn't mean we need to close our doors tongue.gif We still have posts every day. Just because it isn't the 600 per day average we used to get, doesn't mean we need to shut it down which is what the topic is about.


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