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[pyke]

I've heard talk about way down the road, the idea of pumping saline into you at the scene of an accident in order to preserve you long enough to get treated at a hospital. Nothing like freezing you and storing you away for hundreds of years though.

[Tetiel]

Hello Fry.

[Random]

Reading Joe's posts make me hard.

[Sweeney]

They offer different freezings; one for whole body, one for just head, and one for just brain. Would it work in theory(post mortem) for the brain then with the antifreeze since there aren't any bones ?

I suppose... though I have no idea what other effects the antifreeze could have

I've heard talk about way down the road, the idea of pumping saline into you at the scene of an accident in order to preserve you long enough to get treated at a hospital. Nothing like freezing you and storing you away for hundreds of years though.

It probably wouldn't be saline

One really exciting thing that is in development, regarding pumping fluid (), is for treating victims of fires where their lungs are burnt.
Basically, it's "breathable liquid", that is infused with healing salves. It's ingenious.

[Noitidart]

Ya you Americans are a weird bunch. All for personal liberty but then you go limit it thanks to religion I guess.

I always assumed it was better to be frozen pre-death. Like a bit before an uncurable disease kills you. Didn't they freeze Walt Disney before he died.

Nevermind that's a myth

The wiki on cyrogenics says the Disney thing is myth. It goes on to say he was cremated and his ashes dispersed over the Pacific


Yeah man I don't think that these guys that got frozen are ever coming back to life. I'm pretty sure it's just a huge scientifically backed scam to make money The prices are frickin absurd. I think 80K as the minimum. That's like the guys salary and he's not contributing to society lol

[Mr. Hobo]

If Nox can afford it I doubt it's 80k

[Sweeney]

If Nox can afford it I doubt it's 80k

Instead of life insurance?
Depending on the cost of the policy, it definitely possible.

[Mr. Hobo]

As a part of his insurance plan I think. Still doubt it costs 80k. Unless his payments are huge

[nox]

joe is talking out of is his ass

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Cryptobiosis

I'll be laughing in my grave when you're unfrozen in a thousand years in a world where humans are enslaved by an alien race to mine fuel for their world-conquering motherships.

why would aleins enslave humans dont they have robots or something? we are fragile and die quickly we are no use to aliens

As a part of his insurance plan I think. Still doubt it costs 80k. Unless his payments are huge

?? u just set it up with the cryonics company and they will take a cut out of ur insurance plan. i am young life insurance is very cheap and pays out a lot

"Tragedy is in the eye of the beholder. As Sid Caesar (or maybe Mel Brooks -- one of those really heavy thinkers) said: 'The difference between comedy and tragedy? When the saber tooth tiger eats Moe, that's comedy. When I get a hangnail, that's tragedy.' And if the Tiger of Death eats you, that is the ultimate tragedy; that is when the world ends, when the cosmos disappears, when Everything becomes Nothing.

"The 'tragedy' of the slow growth of immortalism pertains mostly to them, and perhaps to you -- not so much to me or to us, the committed immortalists. We already have made our arrangements for cryostasis after clinical death -- signed our contracts with existing organizations and allocated the money. We will have our chance, and with a little bit of luck will 'taste the wine of centuries unborn'. "

[Vegas]

Pipe dreamssss. Just go live life in the present and not worry about 50-60 years from now.

[Sweeney]

joe is talking out of is his ass

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Cryptobiosis

Did you even read that?
There's no mention of artifical preservation of humans on the page.

[nox]

Yeah, it does. Unless you're at absolute zero, you will get cellular breakdown.
And over long periods, even the slightest bit of decay will be catastrophic.

Ok, look; you cannot simultaneously cease metabolic activity whilst using any sort of intravenous fluid to alter said metabolism.
They're simply incompatible.

Cryptobiosis is an ametabolic state of life entered by an organism in response to adverse environmental conditions such as desiccation, freezing, and oxygen deficiency. In the cryptobiotic state, all metabolic procedures stop, preventing reproduction, development, and repair. An organism in a cryptobiotic state can essentially live indefinitely until environmental conditions return to being hospitable. When this occurs, the organism will return to its metabolic state of life as it was prior to the cryptobiosis.

Nothing specific, but I know a hell of a lot about biology.

joe i appreciate ur opinion but lets be real you're a college student i will trust the scientists and the doctors okey

if it ends up not working...at the end of the day..i would rather be frozen and have my my DNA / brain preserved than have myself buried in a box left to decompose

Edited by nox, 28 May 2009 - 08:23 PM.

[pyke]

I think I'll donate my body to a grade 10 science class.

[Frank274]

I think I'll donate my body to a grade 10 science class.

Teacher?! What is that?!

I think thats where the penis was attat.... GET THAT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH


look what you've done.

[Mr. Hobo]

*joke about Pyke's penis size goes here*

[lovelyjewel]

I agree totally. I wouldnt want to be frozen to be thawed out in a time where i dont know whats going on. I dont want to be a nerd in a future year. Blah!

[Sweeney]

joe i appreciate ur opinion but lets be real you're a college student i will trust the scientists and the doctors okey

if it ends up not working...at the end of the day..i would rather be frozen and have my my DNA / brain preserved than have myself buried in a box left to decompose

There's a huge difference between cryptobiosis, and cryobiosis.
I suggest you learn it before arguing with me.

[Sida]

Tbh, the main reason I wouldn't get frozen is because chances are they'll discover how to do it completely in the future and knowing my luck, a special liquid was needed or something that they didn't use on me.

[nox]

There's a huge difference between cryptobiosis, and cryobiosis.
I suggest you learn it before arguing with me.

[edit] Cryobiosis

Cryobiosis is a form of cryptobiosis that takes place in reaction to decreased temperature. To initiate cryobiosis, the organism freezes all of the water within its cells. This allows the organism to endure the freezing temperatures until more hospitable conditions return. Studies have shown that the longer an organism remains in cryobiosis, the longer it takes for the organism to come out of cryobiosis. This is because the organism must use its own energy to come out of cryobiosis, and the longer it stays in cryobiosis the less energy it has.

???

thats like saying there's a huge difference between art and drawing

[Sunset]

By the name of the post I thought this was neo related and wondering wtf was going on, now it seems someone watched the movie vanillasky ...uggh that movie confuses me but its pretty much what its about.

80k I would think its more if it was that price many many many could afford to do it and the world would be full of frozen bodies not buried ones they would in time run out of room for these bodies I would think... but once again i'm just rambling!

[Sweeney]

???

thats like saying there's a huge difference between art and drawing

Well... there is a huge difference between art and drawing.

[Noitidart]

Gosh don't argue with joe he's a jerk Somehow wins a lot

[nox]

Well... there is a huge difference between art and drawing.

GOOD RESPONSE JOE CARRY ON NOW

[Quadra]

i just got life insurance and im gonna set it up so they take the $ out of there when i die and freeze me

sup ill visit yall decomposing skeletons in a couple hunned years

Instead of going into dubious post-mortem cryogenic stasis, spend your life insurance on an extravagant funeral and be the most genteel skeleton of us all.

[Bryan]

I actually live about a mile from the Cryogenics lab in the article that states it was in Arizona before it moved to California. As far as I know, most people that do submit themselves to crygogenics do not do so with their entire body. Though it's possible, I've been told that it will take even longer to figure out how to restart a body then it will to do so with just a brain. So most (at least in AZ) get their brain frozen.

Edited by Bryan, 30 May 2009 - 12:20 AM.