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[Magma]

This is a drawing I did a few month back for a school project. We used random images from magazines, and pieced them together to create something unique and different. Sort of a collage type drawing. Anyways, crits are always welcomed


(Sorry the picture is blurry - my camera is no good)

EDIT: I added a few sketchbook pages of mine.





EDIT: More pages from my sketchbooks - crit away.





















I apologize for poor image quality.

Edited by Magma, 12 July 2009 - 05:52 PM.

[Drakonid]

Is that nemo?

[kuwaz]

Decent. You lack something I would call "strong lines", where you're
lines right now show that you're unsure and afraid to get something wrong,
if you notice with all experienced artists, their lines are very
strong, and convey their image through quite few and determined lined.

Lines that have passion almost, like they know exactly how they want it
without thinking twice about it.

Be brave about art, take chances, don't hold back and think you will
get it perfect, because the best art is art that doesn't hold back and
you WILL get it perfect if you do that. Another name that most of
my art colleagues and teachers use for your current type of lines is
"chicken scratch".

Also, you're shading is subject to the same weakness, and with the
proper lines and shading, your art will improve many times.

[Magma]

Decent. You lack something I would call "strong lines", where you're
lines right now show that you're unsure and afraid to get something wrong,
if you notice with all experienced artists, their lines are very
strong, and convey their image through quite few and determined lined.

Lines that have passion almost, like they know exactly how they want it
without thinking twice about it.

Be brave about art, take chances, don't hold back and think you will
get it perfect, because the best art is art that doesn't hold back and
you WILL get it perfect if you do that. Another name that most of
my art colleagues and teachers use for your current type of lines is
"chicken scratch".

Also, you're shading is subject to the same weakness, and with the
proper lines and shading, your art will improve many times.

I take offense to you saying that I do not have passion because of my line work. Chicken scratch is how I sketch - as you can see by my finished drawing posted, I have very strong lines. Also, please specify what page of work you are critiquing, since I am unsure of what you are critiquing, but I think you are critiquing the sketches that do look like chicken scratch, but those came directly out of my mind - I draw lines, or chicken scratch, and make things out of them.
I will admit that for my shading I need to go darker. It was a challenge for the finished piece I posted, and I still think it could go further. It is something I am working on.

[Hydrogen]

Just a bit of advice: if you are going to post your work, be able to take constructive criticism . No need to take offense to everything, yea? The world isn't so black and white .

[Magma]

Is that nemo?

Yes, it is a clown fish. Which happened to be Nimo haha.

Just a bit of advice: if you are going to post your work, be able to take constructive criticism . No need to take offense to everything, yea? The world isn't so black and white .

I admire the criticism, but the comment suggestion that I lack passion because of my bad lines is offensive - I think it would be towards anyone. Comment on my work, not my passion for art or anything else. That is all I am saying. I don't mean to take offense to comment to provoke people in any way - their comments just happen to be offensive towards me.

Edited by Magma, 12 July 2009 - 05:47 PM.

[kuwaz]

Actually, you haven't really seen real crit. That was just me trying to be helpful.

I kept it on a very "nice" level of crit that I would do, but if you're not really
open for crit, then maybe just don't ask for crit, just post work as it is, as when
I don't want to hear crit, I don't ask for crit. The whole point of having a critique
is so you can improve, and if someone has something to say, be it positive or negative,
I'd actually think it'd be in your best interest to listen and determine whether or
not if its useful for you. Defending your work is probably not something you would
want to do in a crit... this isn't advice from me, this is advice from my professors
every time I try to defend my work

And yes... if crit didn't pinpoint to what the person thinks there can be improvement
that really defeats the point of having a crit. All I'm saying is, you lines
lack passion, not you lack passion. Those are two different things, just because
the lines don't show your passion doesn't mean you don't have any? I don't know,
I can show you some animation sketches which are fast (couple of seconds)...

Edited by channel_49, 12 July 2009 - 07:31 PM.

[Magma]

Actually, you haven't really seen real crit. That was just me trying to be helpful.

I kept it on a very "nice" level of crit that I would do, but if you're not really
open for crit, then maybe just don't ask for crit, just post work as it is, as when
I don't want to hear crit, I don't ask for crit. The whole point of having a critique
is so you can improve, and if someone has something to say, be it positive or negative,
I'd actually think it'd be in your best interest to listen and determine whether or
not if its useful for you. Defending your work is probably not something you would
want to do in a crit... this isn't advice from me, this is advice from my professors
every time I try to defend my work

And yes... if crit didn't pinpoint to what the person thinks there can be improvement
that really defeats the point of having a crit. All I'm saying is, you lines
lack passion, not you lack passion. Those are two different things, just because
the lines don't show your passion doesn't mean you don't have any? I don't know,
I can show you some animation sketches which are fast (couple of seconds)...

Sure, show me some of your work and some examples of what you are talking about in terms of improving my lines and shading. If it will help me improve my work then that is great.

[kuwaz]

Couple of my friends are in animation, their sketching is WAY better
than me, and I primarily sketch with a fountain/gel pen, so I'm
posting some of their random quick sketches to show you some good line
qualities that might help you:





This artist is enrolled in the Sheridan Animations program, the best
Animations program in Canada, and top if not number one in North America
as well, so I can vouch that these are really great sketches.

As you can see, it is quick yet straight to the point, the lines
are very strong and defined, and only where they need to be, allowing
for a great volume of detail without having to use any.

Any rough work in there are usually quick faint outlines or its
some quick sketch of skeletons within the figure to allow better anatomy.

I love sketched/rough work more than finished work, just because of
how dynamic and alive the lines and shading are, as soon as its completed
I don't feel that energy anymore, so that why I'm picky about sketches.

Edited by channel_49, 12 July 2009 - 10:32 PM.

[Wicked]

the first sketch I find is very well done, i can tell you put a bit of effort into it, the rest are just your doodles which are quite interesting but i can't really give you c/c on them cause everyone's work is different, ya?

[Bryan]

So we've learned today. Press the pencil down harder when you sketch.

[Magma]

Couple of my friends are in animation, their sketching is WAY better
than me, and I primarily sketch with a fountain/gel pen, so I'm
posting some of their random quick sketches to show you some good line
qualities that might help you:





This artist is enrolled in the Sheridan Animations program, the best
Animations program in Canada, and top if not number one in North America
as well, so I can vouch that these are really great sketches.

As you can see, it is quick yet straight to the point, the lines
are very strong and defined, and only where they need to be, allowing
for a great volume of detail without having to use any.

Any rough work in there are usually quick faint outlines or its
some quick sketch of skeletons within the figure to allow better anatomy.

I love sketched/rough work more than finished work, just because of
how dynamic and alive the lines and shading are, as soon as its completed
I don't feel that energy anymore, so that why I'm picky about sketches.

I see where you are coming from. Almost all their lines have a purpose, while I have a lot of lines that are just there, and don't serve any purpose. I have only had one high school year of formal art training, so I would say that I don't have much experience as many people do, and I am still learning.

the first sketch I find is very well done, i can tell you put a bit of effort into it, the rest are just your doodles which are quite interesting but i can't really give you c/c on them cause everyone's work is different, ya?

That first drawing was a high school project of mine. All pencil work. I put in 20+ hours into it, and it was shown at a local art show for a number of high schools in my area.
The rest are just rough sketches.. I want to create a piece using the stlye of characters in my sketches, but I have the hardest time with any figure, or drawing characters in different angles. It bothers me so much, and I work on it, but it seems like I can never draw the same character or thing more than once in a different position!
Drawing can be so frustrating at times.

EDIT:
I have some studies of tissues and hands included in the pages I posted - does anyone have any crit on those?

Edited by Magma, 13 July 2009 - 07:42 AM.

[Wicked]

its definitely another skill all together to draw the same thing in a different position.. I had problems for a while but I practiced and practiced until I finally got it down :x

[Magma]

its definitely another skill all together to draw the same thing in a different position.. I had problems for a while but I practiced and practiced until I finally got it down :x

Ya, it is really difficult. Right now, I am going to college in the fall for a graphics design type major, but I am seriously thinking about transferring my major to animation since my dream is to work for Pixar/Dreamworks/Disney making movies like Finding Nemo, Up, Wall-E, etc. I kind of need to get down drawing figures in different positions to be an animator haha.
I just got a fancy new sketchbook today, so I'm going to practice some right now