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[MasterJunpei]

ok so I have 64 bit xp and a 3.1 dual core amd 64 II processor with a gigabyte motherboard. I tried installing 64 bit but it said I had to change something in the bios. I couldn''t find any settings relating to 64 or 32/86 bit in my BIOS. Any help would be appreciated.

Also are most programs compatible with 64 bit or no?

[nonotjj]

Most programs aren't compatible with 64bit... it's the only reason I frown upon it. What kind of motherboard is it? Brand/Model?

[MasterJunpei]

so if I installed it I wouldn't be able to run say Abrosia?

Brand is Gigabyte, model is a new one >.> Just built this comp last month and it supports ddr3

[nonotjj]

I have no idea if Abrosia is 64bit compatible... and a model number is really the only thing I need to try and help. I'm looking for the online manual atm... http://www.gigabyte....anual_List.aspx

[Mr. Hobo]

You'd probably be better off calling tech support if your mobo is still under warrenty.

[Metigue]

Sounds like you need to flash your bios.

I run 64 bit xp and can run Abrosia just fine

Shadow works very hard to make it vista compatible and such

[MasterJunpei]

Gigabyte Model Number Page
theres the specs

oh and how do i flash the bios?

also what programs will i lose by switching to 64 bit? In general really

Edited by zumah, 10 September 2009 - 08:47 PM.

[iargue]

Most programs aren't compatible with 64bit... it's the only reason I frown upon it. What kind of motherboard is it? Brand/Model?

I have no idea if Abrosia is 64bit compatible... and a model number is really the only thing I need to try and help. I'm looking for the online manual atm... http://www.gigabyte....anual_List.aspx

Sounds like you need to flash your bios.

I run 64 bit xp and can run Abrosia just fine

Shadow works very hard to make it vista compatible and such

You guys dont understand how Windows Handles 64 bit support. Since Windows XP was introduced when 64 bit was less then 10% of the pc market, they had to implement a method of allowing people to run 32 bit programs. Because 32bit and 64bit fill the addresses in a system completely different they at 100% incompatibile, but windows including a 32 bit emulator node that allows them to automatically run programs in 32 bit mode instead of 64 bit mode. And since then, every 64 bit operating system also implements it. So you dont have to worry about program incompatibility with 64 bit mode.

Well. I looked at your specs. Seems 64 bit, so give me the exact error, and I'll get you a solution.

Edited by iargue, 11 September 2009 - 04:47 AM.

[MasterJunpei]

woot thank you

[Fatal]

You guys dont understand how Windows Handles 64 bit support. Since Windows XP was introduced when 64 bit was less then 10% of the pc market, they had to implement a method of allowing people to run 32 bit programs. Because 32bit and 64bit fill the addresses in a system completely different they at 100% incompatibile, but windows including a 32 bit emulator node that allows them to automatically run programs in 32 bit mode instead of 64 bit mode. And since then, every 64 bit operating system also implements it. So you dont have to worry about program incompatibility with 64 bit mode.

Well. I looked at your specs. Seems 64 bit, so give me the exact error, and I'll get you a solution.

QFT, my mind was getting blown out with all the wrong/unclear answers before this.

[iargue]

QFT, my mind was getting blown out with all the wrong/unclear answers before this.

Lol. I considered cussing at them. But they are new, so I let it slide.

[Metigue]

Lol. I considered cussing at them. But they are new, so I let it slide.

My awnser wasn't wrong, he probably does need to flash his Bios.

If he was previously running a 32 bit operating system, and he didn't format the bios when he reformatted, then it would leave the bios intact, to make formatting faster (That is if he was going to install a 32 bit operating system)

When he is trying to install a 64 bit os however, the bios conflicts with the installation.

[iargue]

My awnser wasn't wrong, he probably does need to flash his Bios.

If he was previously running a 32 bit operating system, and he didn't format the bios when he reformatted, then it would leave the bios intact, to make formatting faster (That is if he was going to install a 32 bit operating system)

When he is trying to install a 64 bit os however, the bios conflicts with the installation.

Lol.

1) You cannot format the bios.
2) The Bios is 32/64 bit. if the motherboard is 64 bit, he can install 64/32 bit on it, 32 bit just wont take full usage of its power.
3) In your answer, you said shadow works really hard to make his programs compatible. While Shadow works hard, and is a great programmer, he doesnt have to do anything to make sure his program will run on a 64 bit platform.

[Cyo]

Lol.

1) You cannot format the bios.
2) The Bios is 32/64 bit. if the motherboard is 64 bit, he can install 64/32 bit on it, 32 bit just wont take full usage of its power.
3) In your answer, you said shadow works really hard to make his programs compatible. While Shadow works hard, and is a great programmer, he doesnt have to do anything to make sure his program will run on a 64 bit platform.

Depends on what you mean by format. If by erasing all the shit on it then you totally can.

[Fatal]

My awnser wasn't wrong, he probably does need to flash his Bios.

If he was previously running a 32 bit operating system, and he didn't format the bios when he reformatted, then it would leave the bios intact, to make formatting faster (That is if he was going to install a 32 bit operating system)

When he is trying to install a 64 bit os however, the bios conflicts with the installation.

*facepalm* You shouldn't even post info like this if you have no clue what you're talking about. Your answer was highly wrong, even though it may have been a good recommendation in general.

Yes updating the BIOS is good, but has NOTHING to do with 32bit or 64bit ANYTHING. As long as the motherboard/BIOS supports your CPU, it should work fine.

[iargue]

Depends on what you mean by format. If by erasing all the shit on it then you totally can.

Format:
6. Computers.
a. to set the format of (input or output): Some word-processing programs format output in a variety of ways.
b. to prepare (a disk) for writing and reading.

Bios's cant be formated. They can be flashed though.

*facepalm* You shouldn't even post info like this if you have no clue what you're talking about. Your answer was highly wrong, even though it may have been a good recommendation in general.

Yes updating the BIOS is good, but has NOTHING to do with 32bit or 64bit ANYTHING. As long as the motherboard/BIOS supports your CPU, it should work fine.

Actually, best practice should be BIOS flash is last resort. If done wrong, your fucked.

[Fatal]

Actually, best practice should be BIOS flash is last resort. If done wrong, your fucked.

Correct, but I'm always a risk taker I flash to every single newest BIOS including beta if available.

The difference between the BIOS that came with my ASUS P5K-E and the newest BIOS it has now is INSANE. Went from complete shit, unstable, nonworking board, to the best board I've probably ever owned. Pure stability.

Edited by Fatal, 13 September 2009 - 06:33 PM.

[Eskimo]

<br />Correct, but I'm always a risk taker <img src='http://www.neocodex....efault/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> I flash to every single newest BIOS including beta if available. <br /><br />The difference between the BIOS that came with my ASUS P5K-E and the newest BIOS it has now is INSANE. Went from complete shit, unstable, nonworking board, to the best board I've probably ever owned. Pure stability.<br />

Flashing BIOS is always last resort. I've never had a mobo with issues severe enough to warrant it. Buy less junk IMO.

[Fatal]

Flashing BIOS is always last resort. I've never had a mobo with issues severe enough to warrant it. Buy less junk IMO.

You must not do too much overclocking then. In that case, sure, you may not need to update. But if overclocking, BIOS updates can make huge differences.

[Eskimo]

<br />You must not do too much overclocking then. In that case, sure, you may not need to update. But if overclocking, BIOS updates can make huge differences.<br />

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Point taken. Only OCing I've done is with software on a notebook, lolol.

[SadeghiJK]

I never had the urge to OC my comp, but what was the actual error that you got?

[Exodi]

yeah i think sooner or later programs will be compatible with 64 bit
more sooner
however stick to 32 bit if you want...