563 replies to this topic

[imasramma]

In the majority of cases, I think the parents should only be able to override the wishes of the daughter in cases of medical need.
But again, as every sensible person in the thread has said, it depends on the circumstances.

could you explain a circumstance?

[Sweeney]

could you explain a circumstance?

A circumstance for what?

It's your question. You explain a situation, and I'll give you my opinion.

But unless you're going to cover every concievable permutation of events, then the exercise is fairly pointless.

[Persuasion]

Every person I know who was in school when they had an abortion continued school after the abortion.

Every person I know who was in school when they had a baby didn't return to school.

Exactly; I think abortion is alright under certain circumstances though. For example rape. But generally, I think we need to realize and take our mistakes.

[AyoForYayo]

Yes.

1. Rape cases
2. poor/homeless/low income
3. overpopulation
4. terrible birth defects
5. age
6. other circumstances which would be extremely unfavorable to have a child in.

Ok what about the fact that an abortion would cost alot of money and many people cant afford one so what? they go broke cause of a mistake?

Long term costs of a baby > abortion

YOU HAVE A CHILD FOR YOUR ENTIRE LIFE.
You pay for them to grow up and live and eat and be clothed in your house.
Then college and cars and birthdays and paying for a wedding and so much shit over time.

Abortion = not as much money as a life long child
$$$$$

[rizler]

i wrote a long debate/essay on this over 4 pages of A4 size 10 font

if i still had it i wouldve loved to copied and pasted it here

and it was against abortion

[Nunc]

I think that abortions should not be allowed if:
a) The father doesn't want an abortion
b) The parents don't want an abortion
c) The population of the country where the pregnant girl resides in is falling
d) The pregnant girl is white
or
e) The baby/fetus is male

[Boggart]

I think that abortions should not be allowed if:
a) The father doesn't want an abortion
b) The parents don't want an abortion
c) The population of the country where the pregnant girl resides in is falling
d) The pregnant girl is white
or
e) The baby/fetus is male

Haha I enjyed this even though you were just trollin' xD

[Nunc]

I'm 100% serious comrade.

Though to be honest, that doesn't leave a lot of opportunities to abort, unless you're like an orphan bearing a woman-child in Africa

[Persuasion]

I can't tell if you're serious or not xD Males only live? What about the females? Lol, that won't go well with da public. Then white women can't get abortions while other can? xD Racist much? Are you calling them stupid or wut. lulz.

Did you know the average white man is the most discriminated against in the US? xD We've heard of a Black Man's Society or a Black Man's Organization, or any organization for minorities; though if white men decide to make a "white men organization", they would be shot down by everyone around them
^Semi Off topic rant

[Sweeney]

Did you know the average white man is the most discriminated against in the US? xD We've heard of a Black Man's Society or a Black Man's Organization, or any organization for minorities; though if white men decide to make a "white men organization", they would be shot down by everyone around them
^Semi Off topic rant

*snort*
Don't be pathetic. The average white male barely knows the meaning of the word discrimination.

[Nunc]

Look, mate, I think white people should not be allowed to abort. This is not to discriminate against white people; on the contrary, it is to enable the white population to increase. And I really agree, we are discriminated against on a daily basis in the US. Only Asians are hit harder than us by fiscal fiascos like Affirmative Action and the Civil Rights Act of 1965.

[Boggart]

Look, mate, I think white people should not be allowed to abort. This is not to discriminate against white people; on the contrary, it is to enable the white population to increase. And I really agree, we are discriminated against on a daily basis in the US. Only Asians are hit harder than us by fiscal fiascos like Affirmative Action and the Civil Rights Act of 1965.

I thought you didn't live in the US

[Nunc]

I'm not American, but I am a legal immigrant in and citizen of America

[Formaldehyde]

I voted yes, simply because I believe that people make some bad decisions when it comes to this sort of thing and you shouldn't have to pay for it (literally) for the rest of your life. I don't believe an embryo is "a living thing" also. And white people being discriminated, you serious? lol

[Roxi]

Civil Rights Act of 1965.

This is especially true in Alabama. It's so freaking annoying. Although I still think we should be able to abort if we choose.

[Nunc]

Well obviously there are cases where it should be allowed, like if a black man rapes a white woman she should have the option of aborting the offspring. But if it's a white/white couple and the woman only wants the abortion because she wants a 'career' in law or so she can party every night then it should be outlawed.

Edited by Nunc, 26 February 2011 - 03:39 PM.

[Boggart]

Well obviously there are cases where it should be allowed, like if a black man rapes a white woman she should have the option of aborting the offspring. But if it's a white/white couple and the woman only wants the abortion because she wants a 'career' in law or so she can party every night then it should be outlawed.

lmao subtle.

What about when a white man rapes a white woman?

[artificial]

I agree with the above post.

Women are hormonal and emotional at the best of times, let alone during pregnancy. For the sake of the child, they shouldn't be given the choice, lest they make the wrong one. The final decision should always fall to the man who fathered the child.

[Tarabyte]

I agree with the above post.

Women are hormonal and emotional at the best of times, let alone during pregnancy. For the sake of the child, they shouldn't be given the choice, lest they make the wrong one. The final decision should always fall to the man who fathered the child.

My only pregnancy was a high-risk one, and I was given the option to abort for my own safety. Of course, since I was pregnant and hormonal, my decision shouldn't be taken into consideration , but I chose not to abort. ( a decision I do not in any way regret. I love & cherish my now 2 year old daughter.)

Even so, I believe it's the woman's choice in the situation. It's her body that is at risk, she should be the one making the decision.

Edited by TaraTantrum, 26 February 2011 - 03:47 PM.

[luvsmyncis]

Ya'lls mommas shoulda dun got abortions.

[Ali]

Oh god, this has been dragged up again? Really?

I'm always interested by people who believe that it should only be allowed if there's a danger to the mother/baby. Childbirth is a dangerous process. People DIE from it. (Granted, the majority of us are in developed countries where the associated mortality rates are relatively low). Perfectly healthy expectant mothers can do everything by the book and develop life threatening conditions. Health professionals estimate that somewhere just over 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage, the emotional impact of which can last for years.

It's awful enough that those who desperately want children have to risk all that, I see no reason to force someone who doesn't through it.

*Remembers to take pill because children are a horrible horrible evil*

[artificial]

Ya'lls mommas shoulda dun got abortions.

Normally I would ask you not to belittle the thread, but seeing as how you're from Texas, ya'll actually do speak that way.

Also, at above respondent: in most cases, a child affects the father just as much, if not more so. Fair enough if it's a high risk pregnancy, but otherwise why should the decision fall to the female?

[Nunc]

Oh god, this has been dragged up again? Really?

I'm always interested by people who believe that it should only be allowed if there's a danger to the mother/baby. Childbirth is a dangerous process. People DIE from it. (Granted, the majority of us are in developed countries where the associated mortality rates are relatively low). Perfectly healthy expectant mothers can do everything by the book and develop life threatening conditions. Health professionals estimate that somewhere just over 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage, the emotional impact of which can last for years.

It's awful enough that those who desperately want children have to risk all that, I see no reason to force someone who doesn't through it.

*Remembers to take pill because children are a horrible horrible evil*

Look, if you don't want children, that's fine with me, you're an arab after all.

But if white women don't want children, that's cause they've been brainwashed by the MSM that the best life is one without children. And I can't accept falling white birthrates just due to some brainwashed sacks-of-hormones not desiring it.

[leurz]

Males should make all abortion decisions, and females should make all vasectomy decisions. Fair enough?

[Nunc]

I agree with the above post.

Women are hormonal and emotional at the best of times, let alone during pregnancy. For the sake of the child, they shouldn't be given the choice, lest they make the wrong one. The final decision should always fall to the man who fathered the child.

QFT, +rep

You put it very nicely, my Armenian comrade.

Males should make all abortion decisions, and females should make all vasectomy decisions. Fair enough?

Nah, that is just bullshit. Women are hormonal and petty at the best of times; imagine if they were given full rights to decide whether men get their dicks chopped off or not.