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#1 Philly

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 10:35 AM

http://prosaix.devia...pussy-184327117

This.

It has brought a lot of controversial comments. I'd like to know what you guys think. In any case I recommend you read some of the comments he makes to others before saying you agree on the stamp.

It's controversial since he basically says people that commit suicide are pussies.

I'm disgusted with this guy. He should die or be kicked from DA, this is highly offending. I lost my dad to suicide because my mother died of cancer :( That doesn't make my dad a pussy?

Edited by Philly, 30 October 2010 - 10:48 AM.


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    #2 Waser Lave

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 10:38 AM

    Can you add an "I don't care" option?

    #3 Philly

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 10:48 AM

    Sure can.

    #4 iargue

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 10:56 AM

    That doesn't make my dad a pussy?



    It kind of does. You dont commit suicide because your super brave. You commit suicide because you cant stand living anymore. If he was brave, he would have faced the world and kept living. He chose not to. Stop thinking of him as brave or as a hero or something. He decided to leave you behind without a mother or a father.

    And I agree with Laser. I really dont care.

    #5 Philly

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 11:07 AM

    Well yeah but I miss him.

    #6 iargue

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 11:13 AM

    Well yeah but I miss him.



    And there is no one in the world to blame except him :(

    #7 Philly

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 11:15 AM

    And the people that are from 'child safety' who took me and my brother away from him because 'he couldn't care for us'.. bullshit, he was a great dad. I think that ruined his life most, that we were taken away from him too.. :(Anyway, getting offtopic.

    #8 luvsmyncis

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 12:30 PM

    Wow, Cody always knows the nicest most comforting way to say things. Makes me absolutely sick!!
    I kinda wish sometimes that more people would just hurry up and kill themselves. Survival of the fittest.

    #9 Mishelle

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 12:34 PM

    I like the stamp, but the title is condescending and puts him on the same level as the people who bullied him. It's nice to know that people can survive bullying and not learn a damn thing. Not all bullying is the same, some of it transcends "old school yard bullying" into harassment, assault, and battery and that paired up with mental instability can obviously end very badly. Not everyone goes through the same thing, not everyone's thought processes are the same, that doesn't mean they should be ostracized for it.

    #10 Philly

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 10:38 PM

    I don't want to promote suicide, but I don't believe calling them pussies is a right thing to do.

    I kinda wish sometimes that more people would just hurry up and kill themselves. Survival of the fittest.


    Well people that have such statements as the douche who made the stamp can go kill himself.



    #11 jcrdude

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 11:15 PM

    I don't want to promote suicide, but I don't believe calling them pussies is a right thing to do.


    I don't think the people who committed suicide are too offended about the statement.

    #12 redlion

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    Posted 30 October 2010 - 11:27 PM

    I voted waser doesn't care.

    Just saying. Why is this in debate?

    #13 MsRose

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    Posted 31 October 2010 - 04:24 AM

    I'm a prick. Let me shove my ideals down your throat in the most insensitive and offense way possible.


    There are possibly millions of ways to say what you just said without looking like an ass.

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    Personally, I think he's been watching too much of the Amazing Atheist on youtube. Although, I don't think suicide is an appropriate, level-headed response to being bullied, of course that might be obvious. All teenagers who commit suicide over bulling probably left a lot out of the story; whether things at home were rough, or they were born with depression. It's important to remember that teens are much more impulsive than adults.

    "The teenage brain may be more responsive to environmental stimuli and, although this may facilitate learning rates, it may also make this group more susceptible to negative stimuli, such as stress and substances of abuse and addiction."
    Full article.

    I don't think that your dad is a coward or "pussy". I think he was a good man who went through an incredible amount of stress all at once.

    Depression is a strange creature and until someone experiences it themselves they will never understand the profound impact it has on everything around you. Saying things like "it's mind over matter" and "they can choose not to be depressed" is so naive. It's like telling someone to get over cancer. It's a legitimate medical condition.

    #14 iargue

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    Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:50 PM

    There are possibly millions of ways to say what you just said without looking like an ass.

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    Personally, I think he's been watching too much of the Amazing Atheist on youtube. Although, I don't think suicide is an appropriate, level-headed response to being bullied, of course that might be obvious. All teenagers who commit suicide over bulling probably left a lot out of the story; whether things at home were rough, or they were born with depression. It's important to remember that teens are much more impulsive than adults.

    "The teenage brain may be more responsive to environmental stimuli and, although this may facilitate learning rates, it may also make this group more susceptible to negative stimuli, such as stress and substances of abuse and addiction."
    Full article.

    I don't think that your dad is a coward or "pussy". I think he was a good man who went through an incredible amount of stress all at once.

    Depression is a strange creature and until someone experiences it themselves they will never understand the profound impact it has on everything around you. Saying things like "it's mind over matter" and "they can choose not to be depressed" is so naive. It's like telling someone to get over cancer. It's a legitimate medical condition.


    I'm not a prick. Because I say what I feel straight up and honestly does not make me any sort of prick, it simply makes me honest. You try and not to offend people, I believe that if someone takes offense to what I say, they missed what I was saying. I do not mean any kind of offense to anything that I am saying, I'm simply saying it.

    You have no right to say anything at all about my life when you know nothing about it at all. I'm a programmer.... did you think I was a jock in high school or something? No. I was bullied plenty of times. I also even did bullying of my own. I have been walked on and abused. I'm seen someone kill themselves in front of me. I've talked plenty of people out of committing suicide.

    When I younger I was out shopping with my parents, and someone was on a roof about to jump. I went up on the roof and sat down next to him and just waited. Whenever he asked me if I was crazy, I started talking to him, and eventually convinced him to give things another shot. I talked to an old boss and got him a job, and set him up on a blind date with a friend. Last time that I checked up on him, he now has 2 kids and is a manager at Walmart (He married a different girl). And to think, those two kids wouldn't even exist if that guy had just taken the easy way out.

    "Kids are super sensitives" BIG FUCKING DEAL. No one has ever stuck around in my life for more then a year. No matter how many nice things I do for them. They always leave me. Did I commit suicide? No. For a while I was really numb and didnt feel anything, but I dont over that too. Depression is something you can just get off. I'm sick of people saying, "Its a chemical problem" and you need drugs. YOU DONT NEED DRUGS. Before we introduced drugs to the equation depression still existed, and people got over it just fine. I've yet to meet a single person that got over depression while on anti-depression meds, yet I've helped plenty of people get over depression.

    Suicide is for pussies. A pussy is someone who is scared of someone. Whenever you commit suicide your afraid of facing the next day. You can try and sugar coat it. You can try and say, "His life was soooo stressful and sad" that doesn't mean he wasnt afraid. Suicide is never ever ever a good thing. No matter who you are in your life, and no matter how bad things are. Atleast one person at any given moment will care about you. Weither its a mom, or a friend, or someone you met online. Whenever you are close to someone, and you find out that they killed themselves instead of comming to you. How do you feel? You become depressed too, and if your also a pussy, you wold commit suicide, and eventually everyone in the world would be dead. Thank god for people who can wake up every morning, hate their life, and keep living it.

    No one ever lives a perfect life. Even people who grow up rich and beautiful and get everything they ever wanted, get depressed over something in life. So why is it that its okay for 33k of those people to just kill themselves, while no one else does it? Did you commit suicide during your teenage years? Obviously not.

    Thank you for judging me before you know anything about me.

    I'm honest, get over it already.

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    Posted 31 October 2010 - 05:44 PM

     

    Suicide is for pussies. A pussy is someone who is scared of someone. 


    My vagina fears no man.

    #16 Mishelle

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    Posted 31 October 2010 - 06:54 PM

    For anyone who would like to not be ignorant and get educated on the matter of suicide, I suggest watching the documentary The Bridge. Maybe it'll provide some insight so no one has to go off making hasty generalizations about people's mental states and automatically calling them gendered insults.

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    Posted 31 October 2010 - 07:55 PM

    Wait, I stopped wanking over redtube for this? Things I go through...

    #18 Mishelle

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    Posted 31 October 2010 - 08:23 PM

    I don't understand your elitist attitude here. I speak from both research and first hand experience. For you to assume otherwise is both arrogant and asinine.


    I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the person who says "don't judge me when you don't know me" right after they've judged and insulted every person who's committed suicide.

    Edited by Mishelle, 31 October 2010 - 08:24 PM.


    #19 Mishelle

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    Posted 31 October 2010 - 08:26 PM

    oh... understood. :p

    Without making that clear, it was interpretable as if you were speaking to everyone who had posted before you.

    My mistake.


    I'm sorry. I didn't want to specifically point anyone out because I didn't want it to turn into a huge flamewar. I thought your post was very well thought out and an informative.

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    Posted 31 October 2010 - 09:37 PM

    I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the person who says "don't judge me when you don't know me" right after they've judged and insulted every person who's committed suicide.



    I've not insulted anyone who committed suicide. THEY ARE FUCKING DEAD. They dont get insulted anymore. All they are is dust.

    You insult me by saying they are just as good as I am, who never picked up a gun and tried to kill myself.

    #21 Mishelle

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    Posted 31 October 2010 - 09:40 PM

    I've not insulted anyone who committed suicide. THEY ARE FUCKING DEAD. They dont get insulted anymore. All they are is dust.

    You insult me by saying they are just as good as I am, who never picked up a gun and tried to kill myself.


    insult: to behave with pride or arrogance

    educate yoself.

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    Posted 31 October 2010 - 10:13 PM

    insult: to behave with pride or arrogance

    educate yoself.



    You cant insult a dead person.

    #23 MsRose

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    Posted 01 November 2010 - 04:52 AM

    I'm not a prick. Because I say what I feel straight up and honestly does not make me any sort of prick, it simply makes me honest. You try and not to offend people, I believe that if someone takes offense to what I say, they missed what I was saying. I do not mean any kind of offense to anything that I am saying, I'm simply saying it.


    I never said "don't say anything at all". If I recall correctly I said "There are possibly millions of ways to say what you just said without looking like an ass." Only children have verbal diarrhea. So, if you have verbal diarrhea I suggest you take a grow-the-fuck-up pill.

    and as far as your "Thank you for judging me before you know anything about me." is concerned, you can shove it. How well did you know his dad before you called him a pussy?

    I honestly do not feel that you can "get over" real depression. Yes you can surround yourself with better people, but what happens when they leave. It's not you you are changing, it's your environment that effects you. Those who change and aren't depressed anymore obviously weren't born with depression. Chances are it was either teenage angst or a rough patch. You can't just make an illness go away with positive thoughts. I won't deny that we over-medicate, but that really isn't the issue. People who kill themselves obviously aren't the ones who think they might be sad so they go into the doctor to feel better. No, these people are clinically ill. They should be on medication. It's so ignorant to say " YOU DONT NEED DRUGS." Thousands of doctors and scientists just lie about the benefits?

    People get depressed for a year, get over it, and think they're better than anyone who has ever committed suicide. Depression isn't one size fits all. I doubt Iargue that you have ever been through as much pain as his father. No matter what you've been through in life or what his father has went through. I know if you had ever been that low you wouldn't speak so brashly.

    And before you come back with something stupid like

    "I've not insulted anyone who committed suicide. THEY ARE FUCKING DEAD."

    I won't be replying back to you now or ever, because talking to you is like talking to a fucking wall.

    #24 Lineage

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    Posted 01 November 2010 - 05:32 AM

    They should be on medication. It's so ignorant to say " YOU DONT NEED DRUGS." Thousands of doctors and scientists just lie about the benefits?


    I'm arguing because I've taken the science classes and pharmacology classes to back myself in this but..
    Medication isn't a one-size-fit-all either. A lot of anti-depressant and anti-anxiety medications will actually make you worse.
    You're also more likely to commit suicide if on an anti-depressant/anti-anxiety medication because your hormone levels get so out of wack.

    It's not like they can give you any kind of test that says, "oh hey, your serotonin levels are off, so we can you give you X drug to fix it."
    Instead you play the guessing game, which is pretty much a no win, because it takes so many months before you reach a stabilized dose.
    Change the dose to try and get a more therapeutic effect and you need another 4-6 months to try and stabilize again.
    Want to jump ship on a drug and switch to something else? Have fun titrating down to lower dosages first so you don't suffer from serotonin syndrome or similar withdrawal issues.
    And in the meantime, you just get to feel like whale shit at the bottom of the ocean.

    There's also a lot of drugs like Wellbutrin where it gets to be a catch-all. "Hey, we don't know exactly how the med works, but you should try it anyway because it works for some!"
    Or, you end up being on so many damn drugs that you're taking even more medications to try and counter the side effects of the initial drugs you were taking.

    Frankly, therapy should be your first go-to, and your continuous go-to.
    Even if you start drug therapy, you still should be seeing a specialist/psychologist because a pill doesn't just get swallowed and suddenly life becomes sugar and rainbows.

    #25 Philly

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    Posted 01 November 2010 - 06:00 AM

    No worries. This is why it's in the debate section.. lol


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