Dretharis

Once, after getting home from highschool, I discovered that I had left my keys in the house. I paced around it trying to find some way in; eventually, I found a six-foot ladder in the shed, and stuck that against the porch. It was too short, so I had to jump the last couple of feet and the thing fell over as I got up onto the roof. I sliced through my sister's screen, as it was the only window that wasn't locked, and knocked over like two glasses on the windowsill. Parents were pissed about some plant I crushed when the ladder fell over XD

You're saying that the Bible isn't allowed to use synonyms when it's explaining something? That's a fairly common speaking technique. It's commonly accepted that the meaning intended was image/likeness, not behavior.



Again, you missed what I was saying. What you're going after now is an entirely different argument. It's kind of difficult to only argue about the meaning of Jesus' action, when you completely disagree on his major purpose in life. You're taking one part of the Bible, and assuming it's true, and disregarding the rest of it as probably false. If you assume that he wasn't the Son of God, and didn't heal anyone or die for our sins, why assume that he sought out the soldiers and was killed? Either argue assuming it's true, argue assuming it's false, or provide evidence that one portion is false and the other true.



Uh, you said it yourself. The bomber hurts others, and IF we were to assume that Jesus was seeking his own death, then Jesus was still only hurting himself. I'm sorry, but trying to say that hurting others is the same as hurting yourself is a joke of an argument. And, quibbling here, you ignored the fact that I pointed out that he didn't seek out the soldiers, they apprehended him =O



..What the hell does having sex before marriage have to do with this? All you have to do is have faith in Jesus, to forgive your sins. "Good" is a relative, subjective term. Tribes in Africa even today, for example, think it's a "good" thing to rape young virgins, even babies AFAIK, as a home remedy for AIDS. Does that sound very good to you? When it comes down to it, all of us, every single person, has offended or hurt someone else is some way, at some point in their life. No one's perfect. No one's being condemned, as I said. You're simply choosing to go to hell for not believing, when you have the information and option to put faith in Christ. It's not like you're locked out for saying "no" now either.



Ever study logic? It's fallacious to assume something is false because you have no evidence that it's true. And you're admitting now they're misconceptions, so drop them and stop trying to use them as points in your arguments.



Reread my last point on prayer. There's probably a huge conflict in prayers between say, Iran and the United States, is there not? It'd be impossible to answer both, so he probably doesn't really answer either, or if he does so it's extremely subtle and over time. My guess, anyway, but there's really no way to answer that without guessing. I could just as well ask you to disprove that prayer is ineffective in causing miracles, in the cases of people who did pray =O Have fun researching that, or drop the point.




Actually, there are quite a few people who believe in nothing. Ever heard of Nationstates? Great forum, but around half of 'em are Athiest Elitists who hate the US with a passion =O Let's head to websters again, shall we?

re·li·gion –noun 1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Nothing about groups there. Religion refers to any belief or faith, whether personal or popular. You're thinking of Organized Religion™ =O If you're anti-personal belief or faith regarding the creation of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, wouldn't that likely make you an Athiest? Hell, Athiesm could even be considered a Religion of sorts, but I wouldn't in normal discussion/debate.

I read the full article, I simply didn't contribute very much

I would think that in any situation where the cause of insanity is questionable, and may be blamed on the government, further investigation is warranted.

Uhh... Did you read it?

On topic, that statement is pretty rediculous. I wonder if that'll be used as a defense for "tough" interrogation in the future? Or how well that reasoning would hold up internationally XD