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Poll: Do you believe laws are opinionated?

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#1 MichaelA

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:42 AM

What are your beliefs and do you believe that it is in our best interest? I personally believe that they are opinionated and that they are made in the "higher powers" interest not ours well at least some of them.


Edited by shadowgun, 08 May 2014 - 11:23 AM.


#2 Futurama

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:43 AM

Isn't every law technically an opinion of someones and that someone has to make people believe their opinion...unless it's a common sense law?



#3 Sweeney

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:43 AM

You may need to explain your question a little further.

#4 MichaelA

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:43 AM

Isn't every law technically an opinion of someones and that someone has to make people believe their opinion...unless it's a common sense law?

Laws are basically the so called 'higher powers' enforcing their morals on us.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:44 AM

Laws are basically the so called 'higher powers' enforcing their morals on us.

 

 

 

So, their opinions?



#6 MichaelA

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:44 AM

So, their opinions?

Yes 



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:44 AM

Who is this 'our' of which you speak. Your laws might be quite different from my laws. Or are we talking about all laws...

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:44 AM

Who is this 'our' of which you speak. Your laws might be quite different from my laws. Or are we talking about all laws...

laws in general 



#9 Futurama

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:47 AM

Yes 

 

 

 

 

So.....your question is answered. Next.



#10 MichaelA

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:47 AM

So.....your question is answered. Next.

im asking you what you believe i want your guys answers  



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:48 AM

Yeah.. but what do you believe? How can we debate you in the debate forum unless you have an opinion on what you've posted?  :S



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:49 AM

I believe is yes.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:52 AM

What are your beliefs?

 

Yes.



#14 MichaelA

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:54 AM

What are your beliefs?

 

Yes.

 

I believe is yes.

 

Do you guys believe it is in our best interest or just to keep us on a invisible so called leash?



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:55 AM

Do you guys believe it is in our best interest or just to keep us on a invisible so called leash?

Yes.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:56 AM

Yes.

yes to what? can you reiterate 



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:58 AM

yes to what? can you reiterate

Yes, it is in our best interests and to be kept on a 'leash'.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:59 AM

Yes, it is in our best interests and to be kept on a 'leash'.

ahh so what your saying is that it is in our best interest to a certain extent? excuse me if im wrong



#19 NapisaurusRex

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:09 AM

ahh so what your saying is that it is in our best interest to a certain extent? excuse me if im wrong

It's really dependent on which law. I don't agree with every law and there's plenty of laws people hate that I whole-heartedly support. I'm not going to go through all the laws around the world though.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 10:13 AM

Some laws are just common sense. 

 

Some are going to be subjective for what people believe is the greater good. 



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 11:14 AM

What are your beliefs and do you believe that it is in our best interest?

 

Do I believe laws are opinionated? Yes.

Do I believe laws are made in our best interest? In the most general of sense, yes. More often laws are made to protect in some degree those making the law.

Do I believe that law makers are opinionated and that influences the laws they pass? Yes... hence every political conflict over law making. In the U.S. Congress there is a primarily two-party system and the law makers are extremely opinionated. Welcome to politics.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:39 PM

Laws are not opinionated. Those that interpret them, however, are. A law maker and a law enforcer may see a law in two drastically different ways and have different intentions. What is this higher power that you speak of? How are their morals so drastically different than your own? The point of a law is to protect citizens from themselves. There is a reason why murder is illegal just like there was a reason why in the old testament shellfish was unclean. You try to protect your people as best you can and that is the very purpose of a law (assuming your leaders are sane...). It's so much easier to argue a point when we know exactly what is being argued because there is no real accepted definition of law. I can't help but feel from the wording of your post that this entire topic was made out of the feeling of oppression so getting down to the actual subject will be helpful.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:33 PM

Isn't interpretation solidifying the fact that laws are opinionated?

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:41 PM

Isn't interpretation solidifying the fact that laws are opinionated?

It is, yes, but I was trying to make a point that there's a difference between the interpretation of a lawmaker and the interpretation of law enforcement therefore emphasizing the power in the enforcement and not the laws themselves. I apologize if that was confusing. A good judge will try to look at the intent of the law, not just what the law says. So in that respect, power lies with the enforcement officer. I'm not sure what your exact position is in law enforcement, but I'm sure you, for example, may see someone break a certain law, but let them go because in your opinion, they had good reason to do so or it wasn't severe enough to justify enforcement other than a warning. In that way, the power lies with you, not the law, not the lawmakers. That's why I asked what their interpretation of "higher power" was.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 05:53 PM

Ugh, I feel like this thread is about weed legalization still. OP has so little perspective on life that all he can think of is "OMG stupid government won't let me smoke weed!!11"




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