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#1 Dichromate

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Posted 22 December 2010 - 11:52 PM

Let's start with a Lewis Carroll quote : "And it tires me so that generally I go to bed again the next minute after I get up: And sometimes I go to bed a minute before I get up! Did you ever hear of any one being so tired as that?"

Yeah, that's basically my current situation. I wake up feeling like in my sleep, my soul was running the Olympics and rampantly sexing Greek statues up. I've got low motivation. Every time I open up Photoshop to continue a piece, I groan and close it back. I'm sleepy like, three hours after I wake up, and I sleep 12 hours a day. I know something's wrong, but I don't know WHICH part of my lifestyle is making me like these. So anyone with a clue? Clue me in please.


Basic lifestyle :

Sleep : I sleep at 5 a.m -- 1 p.m everyday. Yes, it's a stable time, I don't change times around. Do it because my computer overheats if I draw/paint in the afternoon.
Diet : Two meals a day. Lunch have all major categories like meat/veggies. Dinner is usually meat > veggies. I don't drink much water, but looking to rectify that. Eat lots of fried stuff like tempura too.
Lifestyle: Most of my time in front of the computer or drawing on my desk. Gets up and cycle/jog/aerobics for about half an hour to an hour each day.

So...Lifestyle advice on combating fatigue? Anything works.

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    #2 Chase

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    Posted 22 December 2010 - 11:55 PM

    Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Get it checked out.

    #3 Dichromate

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:23 AM

    I did, but other than the actual fatigue itself and "unrefreshing sleep", none of the symptoms really apply to me :\

    #4 Ment0r

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:11 AM

    Depression Hurts, Symbalta can Help!... Sorry had to say it :p


    ON TOPIC:

    Honestly, you may not even know you are depressed. One of the major signs of depression is getting too much sleep, lack of motivation, always being tired and not feeling like you have the energy to get your daily routine accomplished... Depression isn't just being "sad"... you can be depressed and never realize it until you start taking anti-depression medication. I don't necessarily believe in meds for that sort of situation, but it may help.


    My fiance is watching me post this as we speak and she has some opinions she would like to share with you... She's in her 3rd year of becoming a Psychologist... if you want she can help you figure some stuff out, if you would like to talk publicly or in PM she'd be willing to help, just as extra experience is always a good thing before she enters her career!

    #5 carrice

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:19 AM

    ill say get even more less sleep that helps me when i sleep for 6 hours i feel more energised and when i sleep for like 8-10 hours the whole day seems like a drag . Its seems as if im more tired when i sleep more
    So try it

    #6 sircomflix

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:32 AM

    Don't sleep more than you need to, as it'll leave you groggy. Don't take naps, only lie down in your bed when you actually need to sleep. Eating 2 meals a day isn't particularly great. You should be spreading several meals (5 would be optimal, so roughly a meal every 3 hours) over the day, so eating small portions as opposed to 2 large ones to last you the day.

    #7 xAimx

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:47 AM

    Hey, I'm sorry to hear that your always tired all the time that really does suck. It has happened to be before so I know the feeling. No matter what you do you just have NO energy.

    What patopon say about chronic fatigue syndrome, that is possible, along with what pr4y said about depression. First, your internal clock is at strange hours. All of us have internal clocks that tell us when to go to bed and when to wake up. Our body temperature lowers when its time to go to bed and rises when its time to wake up.I do understand why you have this sleep schedule though. How long have you had this sleep schedule? It takes conditioning to get our internal clocks to change, but once they are at "normal" hours it helps us feel more energetic during the day. What helps me a lot is when I first wake up I FORCE myself to workout even for 5 minutes to help get going for the day. Even just stretching helps.

    It is possible you are depressed. The human brain is amazing. Our unconcious mind is doing so many things at once that we are not even aware about. You should start writing down anything that you are happy about and make another list of any issues that could be bothering you. Make sure you include things at this point in your life and even things from your past or your future. Write this list over the course of a week and anytime you think of something else write it down. This way you get a good overview of what your really thinking. At the end of the week analyze the list, it may surprise you. Then you can deal with the issues one on one and start feeling better about certain things that you may of not known where bothering you.


    I won't list all the signs and symptoms of depression, chronic fatigue syndrome and certain medical conditions right now ( if you are interested just let me know). Are you are having any headaches, have been forgetful, lymph noid tenderness in the neck or arm pits, muscle aches/weakness, joint pain, or having a difficult time concentrating? Also what type of climate do you live in? If these are new symptoms that you haven't experienced before and its now winter time (if you have snow and its cold) that could be another condition.

    The amount of sleep really depends upon the person. I know if I get 6 hours of sleep I don't feel too great...but if I get 9 hours of sleep I'm good. Getting over 9 hours of sleep is just as bad as not getting enough sleep. It is important to have at least snacks in between meals to help fuel your body.

    Edited by xAimx, 23 December 2010 - 02:53 AM.


    #8 Dichromate

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:12 AM

    Thanks everyone, for the input.

    My fiance is watching me post this as we speak and she has some opinions she would like to share with you... She's in her 3rd year of becoming a Psychologist... if you want she can help you figure some stuff out, if you would like to talk publicly or in PM she'd be willing to help, just as extra experience is always a good thing before she enters her career!


    It's alright, I wouldn't want to presume. My friend's cousin is a psychologist, and she just came back to the country for xmas with her. I'm planning to consult her about it, but thank you very much for the offer anyway. +D

    How long have you had this sleep schedule? It takes conditioning to get our internal clocks to change, but once they are at "normal" hours it helps us feel more energetic during the day.


    Since end of November. It varies a little sometimes though - like sometimes I sleep an hour early, about 4, and then another day I'll crash at 6. 5 is the average time.

    Edited by patapon, 23 December 2010 - 03:13 AM.


    #9 iargue

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:16 AM

    I know your English because you said Bloody.

    Thats all I have to contribute :)

    #10 Dichromate

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:33 AM

    I know your English because you said Bloody.

    Thats all I have to contribute :)



    I'm Malaysian :p
    But we use Brit English anyway, so touche.





    #11 iargue

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:43 AM

    I'm Malaysian :p
    But we use Brit English anyway, so touche.




    Thats because British people are either founded or conquered your country.

    Just like Australia is all of their criminals.

    Do you think they say bloody to? I hope so.

    #12 Dichromate

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:46 AM

    Thats because British people are either founded or conquered your country.

    Just like Australia is all of their criminals.

    Do you think they say bloody to? I hope so.


    Yeah, they ruled up until the 1950's.
    And the only Australians I know have replaced all non-extreme swearwords with 'Fucking'. :X

    #13 iargue

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 04:03 AM

    I know two Australians

    Once is a guy who is mean and a playa.

    The other is a girl who makes me drool.

    But I haven't heard either of them say bloody. :(

    #14 artificial

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:17 AM

    Sleep: If you sleep during the day you're generally going to be tired.
    Diet: You only eat twice a day - I'm assuming you eat large meals? If so, takes a lot of energy to digest, meaning you may feel tired. Better to have smaller meals more regularly.

    You're sleeping far too often, which is probably compounding the problem. Sleep at regular time intervals, set an alarm to force yourself to wake up and don't take small naps during the day. You really should change the time you sleep as well. Spend some money on your computer so it doesn't overheat, and go to bed at night. You'll probably find you're more productive, making that money back in no time ;)

    #15 Jakerz

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:05 AM

    I'd say it's your diet. Try eating more meals throughout the day, and start drinking water all day. Just bring a class to the computer with you, you'd be surprised how often you'll drink from it. Most of your symptoms seem like dehydration. It makes you feel drained all day long.

    After reading some of the other posts, some mentioning depression, I thought I should add some more insight. I suffer from depression, as does most of my family, but I find that as long as I have a healthy diet, and exercise on a regular basis, and stay hydrated, most days it is not a problem. I would try changing your diet before starting to take any medication for depression (or going to see your doctor). Especially because I found a lot of the medication they prescribe, just makes it worse.

    #16 Jake

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:46 AM

    If you think you are actually suffering from something and believe it doesn't stem from pure laziness, try looking up depression or suicidal symptoms. Sleeping, lack of motivation are two key components, I'll leave the rest for you to look up.

    #17 xAimx

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:53 AM

    It's alright, I wouldn't want to presume. My friend's cousin is a psychologist, and she just came back to the country for xmas with her. I'm planning to consult her about it, but thank you very much for the offer anyway. +D

    I forgot to mention that I am pr4ys fiance. :)

    Edited by xAimx, 23 December 2010 - 07:53 AM.


    #18 shadow7452

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:10 AM

    I can tell your Malaysian because you said bloody :p

    #19 Jake

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:56 PM

    I can tell your Malaysian because you said bloody :p


    Malaysians aren't known for this, I don't know what they are known for either... but definitely not that. DOUCHE.

    #20 Lychee

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:12 PM

    Maybe you could try eating smaller meals, more often? I'd also strongly recommend eating breakfast, which should help prevent you feeling sleepy shortly after waking up. More vegetables and carbohydrates such as rice and pasta would probably help too - and maybe trying eating more of those than meat. Drinking more water, as you say you plan to do, should also help.

    #21 neobrah

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:23 PM

    caffeine




    or you might have s.a.d

    #22 DanDoesWork

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:00 PM

    Let's start with a Lewis Carroll quote : "And it tires me so that generally I go to bed again the next minute after I get up: And sometimes I go to bed a minute before I get up! Did you ever hear of any one being so tired as that?"

    Yeah, that's basically my current situation. I wake up feeling like in my sleep, my soul was running the Olympics and rampantly sexing Greek statues up. I've got low motivation. Every time I open up Photoshop to continue a piece, I groan and close it back. I'm sleepy like, three hours after I wake up, and I sleep 12 hours a day. I know something's wrong, but I don't know WHICH part of my lifestyle is making me like these. So anyone with a clue? Clue me in please.


    Basic lifestyle :

    Sleep : I sleep at 5 a.m -- 1 p.m everyday. Yes, it's a stable time, I don't change times around. Do it because my computer overheats if I draw/paint in the afternoon.
    Diet : Two meals a day. Lunch have all major categories like meat/veggies. Dinner is usually meat > veggies. I don't drink much water, but looking to rectify that. Eat lots of fried stuff like tempura too.
    Lifestyle: Most of my time in front of the computer or drawing on my desk. Gets up and cycle/jog/aerobics for about half an hour to an hour each day.

    So...Lifestyle advice on combating fatigue? Anything works.


    Well first thing I thought was mono if I'm thinking the correct thing. Fried foods can never be good for your body neither can sleeping at 5am. Maybe its time to invest in a newer computer?

    #23 PeonYourLawn

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:27 PM

    Well first thing I thought was mono if I'm thinking the correct thing. Fried foods can never be good for your body neither can sleeping at 5am. Maybe its time to invest in a newer computer?


    or no computer at all :p

    #24 DanDoesWork

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:46 PM

    or no computer at all :p


    obviously the person needs to the comp to draw lol, and its hard to just take a computer away for good (:

    #25 Dichromate

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    Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:15 PM

    Maybe you could try eating smaller meals, more often? I'd also strongly recommend eating breakfast, which should help prevent you feeling sleepy shortly after waking up. More vegetables and carbohydrates such as rice and pasta would probably help too - and maybe trying eating more of those than meat. Drinking more water, as you say you plan to do, should also help.


    Depending on who you ask we're famous for multiculturalism and racism...Hand in hand.

    Well first thing I thought was mono if I'm thinking the correct thing. Fried foods can never be good for your body neither can sleeping at 5am. Maybe its time to invest in a newer computer?



    It's pretty new, I just got it January this year. It's more the weather, really. It's better now since it's the monsoon season and it's raining everyday, but at normal times the minimum temp is like 30 degrees. Sometimes it even breaks 35 + my house's got no air con and the brickwork's the heat-absorbing kind. You can imagine what kind of oven it'll be at noon. Even a cooler won't bring my com's temperature down. ;\

    But yeah, fried foods. Need to stop obsessing over tempura XD


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