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#626 Padme

Tofu Tatas

1687 posts

Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:49 PM

You NEED the epilogue of book 3 but apart from that I think you can start with book 4 if you can't be bothered to double up on what you've seen...

I'm sure you could find this online and just buy #4.

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#627 Ali

Wielder of the Spork

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:53 PM

I was just about to tag you in my previous post -- thank you! I'm off to Barnes and Noble now. Maybe I'll look at the epilogue in book 3 while I'm there.

Don't take my word for it, been a while since I read them.

@punkrockbigmouth thoughts on where to pick the books up from after season 4?

I'm sure you could find this online and just buy #4.

Fo'sho but he'll have a serious wtf moment if he DOESNT read that final chapter first.

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#628 Padme

Tofu Tatas

1687 posts

Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:56 PM

Don't take my word for it, been a while since I read them.

@punkrockbigmouth thoughts on where to pick the books up from after season 4?
Fo'sho but he'll have a serious wtf moment if he DOESNT read that final chapter first.

Oh 100% agree but I think he should read the whole series haha. Maybe I'm just a noob but I couldn't jump from watching a show to picking up where it left off in a book. Far too much detail in the books and very different mediums. I'd need the same format to get the same enjoyment.

However I guess I get it because people are slow reads or don't have a lot of time

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#629 luvsmyncis

I have no friends.

6724 posts

Posted 21 June 2014 - 02:00 PM

Yeah... the thing about book 4 though is that it does not pick up the stories of Dany, Jon Snow, Team Dragonstone or Tyrion... so I don't know how a tv viewer will feel about a book that centers mainly around Cersei, the Dornish, and the Iron born. Of course if you SKIP Feast, you'll wonder how the fuck Arya and Sam Tarly got to where they are at that point.

More hate for Dany Targ...

Spoiler

Dany is a fuckin' moron. That scene with her dragons was the stupidest shit ever. Oh yeah, punish the two good dragons that didn't fry someone's kid. And it looked ridiculous... like her and her short fat little arms are going to be able to lock a chain heavy enough to hold back a dragon? It was almost as stupid-looking as Jojen being repeatedly stabbed by a skeleton hand and then being blown to bits by the feral child from the Road Warrior.

As for Lady Stonehart...
*takes a deep breath*

So I'm writing for the show, putting myself in those shoes. Great ideas for this season, eveyone. I got it, let's have a spy from the Dreadfort fly to the wall to have this ridiculous and unnecessary fight scene at Craster's Keep while Bran is there Hordoring around, it'll be exciting, trust me. We can have Asha... I mean YARA (we had to rename her because you are all too stupid to know the difference between a wildling at Winterfell and the Princess of the Pirates) Greyjoy look like a fuckin' badass going to save Theon, then look like a fuckin' dingbat leaving him there. Here's half an episode of Grey Worm staring at Missandei's tits. We can have Barristan Selmy act like an asshole to Jorah for being a spy when HELLO, he should have already known all along because he was on King Robert's council when Jorah was doing the spying you stupid fucking old man, what the hell, were you born yesterday? What else can I pull out of my ass? Oh yeah, let's put the Hound and Arya in the Eyrie, at the same time Sansa is there, and have them actually TELL people "Hey, this is Arya Stark." and somehow no one tells Littlefinger. Oh, ok let's put Brienne of Tarth in the fucking Eyrie somehow, too, after having traveled west to the Inn of the Kneeling man just so she can sleep on rocks in the middle of the day, lose her horses and get into a fist fight with the Hound, because she's clairvoyant and knows Arya is with the Hound. Then we'll leave the Hound to die on some rocks in the middle of buttfucking nowhere and have Arya travel back southwest to board a ship at the Saltpans all by herself in a single afternoon. Oh, and let's already build the storyline to resurrect the Mountain, I'm sure that's all way more important than a five minute scene of Beric Dondarion and his buddies shooing wolves away from the dead body of Catelyn Stark so she can begin her awesome and frightening quest for revenge and retribution.

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#630 Stitches

282 posts

Posted 21 June 2014 - 02:06 PM

I have a question for those of you who have read the books. Where does the show leave off in the book series? I know I shouldn't pick up reading the books in the middle of the show, but I simply cannot wait for next year for the show to come out.

@Adam - honestly, if you start from book 4, you're going to be really fucking confused. Book 4 (A Feast for Crows) and 5 (A Dance with Dragons) happen simultaneously, but are split by characters, so half of the characters are in book 4 and the other half are in book 5. You don't see Dany, Tyrion, Jon Snow, and several others for all of book 4, and a lot of characters who were until then insignificant or unintroduced take center stage (many never having been in the tv show, like characters from Dorne and the Iron Islands).

From the wiki, POV characters in each:

Spoiler

A Feast For Crows is the weakest and least entertaining out of all the books, in my opinion. Starting with it is a bad idea.

I honestly recommend starting from the beginning, or if you MUST skip, then from the beginning of book 3, A Storm of Swords. The show has changed some pretty key moments at the end of book 3 this season, and the context is necessary to get what's going on. If not you'll be reading it and go "wtf is he talking about, that's not what happened in the show" and it will pretty much ruin everything. To me it felt like the last episode was a pretty defining moment in the series where the show story and the book story are going to go in significantly different directions, not for everything but for some.

They're long books, but good enough that you read them quickly. The audiobook versions read by Roy Dotrice are excellent as well, and can be found on thepiratebay.

Edited by Stitches, 21 June 2014 - 02:14 PM.

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#631 Adam

Coffee God

4771 posts

Posted 21 June 2014 - 02:15 PM

Yeah... the thing about book 4 though is that it does not pick up the stories of Dany, Jon Snow, Team Dragonstone or Tyrion... so I don't know how a tv viewer will feel about a book that centers mainly around Cersei, the Dornish, and the Iron born. Of course if you SKIP Feast, you'll wonder how the fuck Arya and Sam Tarly got to where they are at that point.

More hate for Dany Targ...

Spoiler
Dany is a fuckin' moron. That scene with her dragons was the stupidest shit ever. Oh yeah, punish the two good dragons that didn't fry someone's kid. And it looked ridiculous... like her and her short fat little arms are going to be able to lock a chain heavy enough to hold back a dragon? It was almost as stupid-looking as Jojen being repeatedly stabbed by a skeleton hand and then being blown to bits by the feral child from the Road Warrior.

As for Lady Stonehart...
*takes a deep breath*

So I'm writing for the show, putting myself in those shoes. Great ideas for this season, eveyone. I got it, let's have a spy from the Dreadfort fly to the wall to have this ridiculous and unnecessary fight scene at Craster's Keep while Bran is there Hordoring around, it'll be exciting, trust me. We can have Asha... I mean YARA (we had to rename her because you are all too stupid to know the difference between a wildling at Winterfell and the Princess of the Pirates) Greyjoy look like a fuckin' badass going to save Theon, then look like a fuckin' dingbat leaving him there. Here's half an episode of Grey Worm staring at Missandei's tits. We can have Barristan Selmy act like an asshole to Jorah for being a spy when HELLO, he should have already known all along because he was on King Robert's council when Jorah was doing the spying you stupid fucking old man, what the hell, were you born yesterday? What else can I pull out of my ass? Oh yeah, let's put the Hound and Arya in the Eyrie, at the same time Sansa is there, and have them actually TELL people "Hey, this is Arya Stark." and somehow no one tells Littlefinger. Oh, ok let's put Brienne of Tarth in the fucking Eyrie somehow, too, after having traveled west to the Inn of the Kneeling man just so she can sleep on rocks in the middle of the day, lose her horses and get into a fist fight with the Hound, because she's clairvoyant and knows Arya is with the Hound. Then we'll leave the Hound to die on some rocks in the middle of buttfucking nowhere and have Arya travel back southwest to board a ship at the Saltpans all by herself in a single afternoon. Oh, and let's already build the storyline to resurrect the Mountain, I'm sure that's all way more important than a five minute scene of Beric Dondarion and his buddies shooing wolves away from the dead body of Catelyn Stark so she can begin her awesome and frightening quest for revenge and retribution.

Punk R. B. Mouth -- the rightful author of Game of Thrones!

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@Adam - honestly, if you start from book 4, you're going to be really fucking confused. Book 4 (A Feast for Crows) and 5 (A Dance with Dragons) happen simultaneously, but are split by characters, so half of the characters are in book 4 and the other half are in book 5. You don't see Dany, Tyrion, Jon Snow, and several others for all of book 4, and a lot of characters who were until then insignificant or unintroduced take center stage (many never having been in the tv show, like characters from Dorne and the Iron Islands).

From the wiki, POV characters in each:

Spoiler

A Feast for Crows

Cersei - 10 chapters

Brienne - 8 chapters

Jaime Lannister - 7 chapters

Samwell Tarly - 5 chapters

Arya Stark - 3 chapters

Sansa Stark - 3 chapters

Aeron Greyjoy - 2 chapters

Victarion Greyjoy - 2 chapters

Arianne Martell - 2 chapters

Asha Greyjoy - 1 chapter

Areo Hotah - 1 chapter

Arys Oakheart - 1 chapter

Pate - 1 chapter (Prologue)

A Dance with Dragons

Jon Snow - 13 chapters

Tyrion Lannister - 12 chapters

Daenerys Targaryen - 10 chapters

Theon Greyjoy - 7 chapters

Quentyn Martell - 4 chapters

Davos Seaworth - 4 chapters

Barristan Selmy - 4 chapters

Asha Greyjoy - 3 chapters

Bran Stark - 3 chapters

Jon Connington - 2 chapters

Cersei Lannister - 2 chapters

Victarion Greyjoy - 2 chapters

Arya Stark - 2 chapters

Areo Hotah - 1 chapter

Jaime Lannister - 1 chapter

Melisandre - 1 chapter

Varamyr Sixskis - 1 chapter (Prologue)

Kevan Lannister - 1 chapter (Epilogue)

A Feast For Crows is the weakest and least entertaining out of all the books, in my opinion. Starting with it is a bad idea.

I honestly recommend starting from the beginning, or is you MUST skip, then from the beginning of book 3, A Storm of Swords. The show has changed some pretty key moments at the end of book 3 this season, and the context is necessary to get what's going on. If not you'll be reading it and go "wtf is he talking about, that's not what happened in the show" and it will pretty much ruin everything. To me it felt like the last episode was a pretty defining moment in the series where the show story and the book story are going to go in significantly different directions, not for everything but for some.

They're long books, but good enough that you read them quickly. The audiobook versions read by Roy Dotrice are excellent as well, and can be found on thepiratebay.

Here's my new plan. I bought A feast for Crows, and A Dance with Dragons, but I've also acquired the audiobooks for which I will listen to on my drive over to San Antonio (~9 hours). Thank's both of you for your input :]

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#632 luvsmyncis

I have no friends.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 02:48 PM

Here's my new plan. I bought A feast for Crows, and A Dance with Dragons, but I've also acquired the audiobooks for which I will listen to on my drive over to San Antonio (~9 hours). Thank's both of you for your input :]

There's nothing in San Antonio worth 9 hours of driving.

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#633 Adam

Coffee God

4771 posts

Posted 21 June 2014 - 02:52 PM

There's nothing in San Antonio worth 9 hours of driving.

Free LASIK surgery is totally worth it

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#634 Strategist

Sadmin

10013 posts

Posted 22 June 2014 - 01:13 AM

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#635 Boggart

Professional Napper

7981 posts

Posted 22 June 2014 - 07:30 PM

I took a "who should date in Game of Thrones" and I got Hodor >_<

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#636 Fikri

submissive

4433 posts

Posted 24 June 2014 - 10:41 PM

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#637 Cyo

Pauly D

2561 posts

Posted 25 June 2014 - 07:31 AM

Spoiler

Also Adam if you really want to skip stuff, Catelyn's chapters are useless, Sansa's are kinda useless too but they give a bit more insight to the courtly intrigue imo, which balances it.

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#638 Cannabis

yungamerican

970 posts

Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:32 PM

Dude this is hilarious.

Is anyone having GOT withdrawals??

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#639 Jibrille

462 posts

Posted 27 June 2014 - 04:07 PM

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I don't really get why you guys are all so excited about Stoneheart. Catelyn's character itself was fucking terrible 'baww, baww, my life is so hard being a lady of winterfell, men don't know shit about difficult lives with their wars bc im a womyn and a mum, baww now im a hypocritical zombie banshee getting revenge willy nilly on everything bc I just couldn't get my ass back to winterfell and take care of my chillin.

But Sansa's character is really becoming better after she stops being that idiot romantic child. She starts to play the game and it's good to see her doing something and not moaning.
I still need to finish the books, but I'll get there

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#640 Scot

≡^ᴥ^≡

3935 posts

Posted 19 July 2014 - 12:39 PM

What is Hodor's favorite cereal?

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#641 Frizzle

M'lord

16889 posts

Posted 19 July 2014 - 02:47 PM

No

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#642 Emily

Wonder Woman

6508 posts

Posted 10 August 2014 - 01:39 PM

Finally finishing up season four like a slowpoke. I was too busy to keep up/finish it before, but now I'm on ep. 6.

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#643 Adam

Coffee God

4771 posts

Posted 10 August 2014 - 01:44 PM

Finally finishing up season four like a slowpoke. I was too busy to keep up/finish it before, but now I'm on ep. 6.

Bout got damn time! I've read the first 3 books so far. I want an e-reader because traditional books are annoying

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#644 Emily

Wonder Woman

6508 posts

Posted 12 August 2014 - 09:30 AM

Finished it. Ep. 9 was intense.

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#645 Adam

Coffee God

4771 posts

Posted 30 January 2015 - 12:03 PM

For those who haven't seen this yet..

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#646 Shannon

💦🌺 water type ♓✨

1618 posts

Posted 30 January 2015 - 12:05 PM

For those who haven't seen this yet..

I kind of hate that people pirated it, but it was awesome af to see it in IMAX. Gonna be such a good season.

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#647 Rocket

7129 posts

Posted 10 March 2015 - 02:07 PM

THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

HBO has finally solved the problem of time zone spoilers with an historic WORLDWIDE SIMULCAST!

On April 12th, Season 5's first episode The Wars To Come will air at 9 PM EST all across the United States and HBO's Asia, Latin America, Canada, Europe, and Nordic markets.

In all, the broadcast will reach 170 countries simultaneously.

Now I don't have to stay away from social media in fear of spoilers.