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[Nymh]

By that I meant, it's not something I do, I was just curious. I really need to start saying what I mean.

 

Oh no, I didn't think you did that

[Frizzle]

No it's not, Lee

 

Well, it should be.

[Sweeney]

How would such a decision be made though? Would it be based on what is popular in parenting now? After all, it's only the last few years that smacking children has become popularly 'unacceptable'.

 

It's only in the last few decades that slavery has become popularly unacceptable too

 

Someone who's not an idiot should make the decision. If people disagree, they should be able to convince the decision-maker why.

[Waser Lave]

It's only in the last few decades that slavery has become popularly unacceptable too

Indeed, I bet you'd be complaining now if somebody back then had decided that slavery was the right thing to do and anybody who disagreed wouldn't be allowed to [insert something equivalent to not being able to have kids but in the context of slavery here]. I suspect you know you're just being silly.

[Turnip]

That was my next wonderment, what if the kid wants it? Like it's the preferred punishment to them?

 

Ara ara~ They're gonna be so fucked up in a few years

[Sweeney]

Indeed, I bet you'd be complaining now if somebody back then had decided that slavery was the right thing to do and anybody who disagreed wouldn't be allowed to [insert something equivalent to not being able to have kids but in the context of slavery here]. I suspect you know you're just being silly.

 

Of course I'm being silly.

But hey, a teacher can dream...

[Waser Lave]

But hey, a teacher can dream...

Well they don't do much else.

[Sweeney]

Well they don't do much else.

 

Pshh.

[NapisaurusRex]

Pshh.

I misread that as 'porn'

[Frizzle]

6 weeks off, paid. Lucky fucks.

[Sweeney]

6 weeks off, paid. Lucky fucks.

 

Don't even start xD

[luvsmyncis]

On the other side, I've also been popped across the face and thrown out the door as an adult and the spanking was very much preferred.

That is not okay in any degree. Even if you were being a raging bitch. I hope you got away from that shit. Don't ever settle for that.

I was spanked a few times as a child. My grandma loved to use the wooden spoon on me, and that shit HURT. But I was a really obnoxious, foul-mouthed little kid. My brother was never spanked, but he was quiet and well behaved. I think we both turned out fine.

There is nothing that prepares people for raising children. You have to pass tests for your profession, or to drive, or to operate machinery, but there is NO license required in order to be a parent. And every damn kid comes out different. It's like we're all born with our personalities. What works for one kid might not work for another. I don't begrudge people for spanking their kids. I like to think I wouldn't spank my kids if I have some. I'd like to think I could control them with shame and guilt alone. But what if they turn out like me? The wooden spoon was the only way grandma kept me in check.

p.s. she's dead now

[NapisaurusRex]

That is not okay in any degree. Even if you were being a raging bitch. I hope you got away from that shit. Don't ever settle for that.

I did. That was a few years ago.

[luvsmyncis]

I did. That was a few years ago.

Good. Sometimes it's not easy for a woman to get away from that sort of thing.

Getting a swat on the butt as a child for doing something your parent didn't like is a lot different than getting clocked in the face as an adult for doing something your partner didn't like.

Unless it was your mom who knocked you out the door. Hmm. I don't know what to think of that. I suppose if my mom tried to hit me today, I'd get her in the sleeper hold. Then I'd threaten to get the wire hanger, like she always used to threaten me.

[NapisaurusRex]

Good. Sometimes it's not easy for a woman to get away from that sort of thing.

Getting a swat on the butt as a child for doing something your parent didn't like is a lot different than getting clocked in the face as an adult for doing something your partner didn't like.

Unless it was your mom who knocked you out the door. Hmm. I don't know what to think of that. I suppose if my mom tried to hit me today, I'd get her in the sleeper hold. Then I'd threaten to get the wire hanger, like she always used to threaten me.

In some ways it was hard; in other ways he made it easy.

I dunno what I would do if one of my parents tried to spank me today. Probably the same thing I remember doing back then: yell and cry.

[Boggart]

p.s. she's dead now

NOT OKAY UNCOMFORTABLE

[luvsmyncis]

I dunno what I would do if one of my parents tried to spank me today. Probably the same thing I remember doing back then: yell and cry.

Run into your room. Lock the door. Shout "I hate you!" and then write about how much you hate your mother in your diary. Secretly wish she was dead. Feel depressed at the thought of your mother being dead. Sheepishly emerge from your room, fearful yet apologetic. Seek out your mother. Stare at her with glossy eyes and trembling mouth. Mutter the worst apology/excuse ever. Cry like a bitch when she hugs you. Feel the shame, oh the utter shame.

 

NOT OKAY UNCOMFORTABLE

A fitting end for her *kind.
*human kind

[NapisaurusRex]

Run into your room. Lock the door. Shout "I hate you!" and then write about how much you hate your mother in your diary. Secretly wish she was dead. Feel depressed at the thought of your mother being dead. Sheepishly emerge from your room, fearful yet apologetic. Seek out your mother. Stare at her with glossy eyes and trembling mouth. Mutter the worst apology/excuse ever. Cry like a bitch when she hugs you. Feel the shame, oh the utter shame.

Exactly.

[RitzWin]

I want to rep everything Sweeney's said, but I don't have the rep for it

[Sweeney]

I want to rep everything Sweeney's said, but I don't have the rep for it

 

It's a common issue.

[luvsmyncis]

It's a common issue.

 

Not for me. I gots 15 reps. 

 

I have seen paralyzing fear in a child's eyes, though. I don't know if her parents spank her or berate her, or just take her toys away, but whenever I babysit my 4 year old step-niece (or whatever she is) and she knocks something over, she looks at me TERRIFIED of getting in trouble. I'm not about to yell at someone else's kid for being a clutz, so she seems relieved when I say "Whoops. Better clean that up." But she's a mean little kid. The last time I saw her, every time she walked by me she stepped on my foot. And when I told her she wasn't very nice she told me she's ALWAYS NICE and I should apologize.

[RitzWin]

Not for me. I gots 15 reps. 

 

I have seen paralyzing fear in a child's eyes, though. I don't know if her parents spank her or berate her, or just take her toys away, but whenever I babysit my 4 year old step-niece (or whatever she is) and she knocks something over, she looks at me TERRIFIED of getting in trouble. I'm not about to yell at someone else's kid for being a clutz, so she seems relieved when I say "Whoops. Better clean that up." But she's a mean little kid. The last time I saw her, every time she walked by me she stepped on my foot. And when I told her she wasn't very nice she told me she's ALWAYS NICE and I should apologize.

 

Poor kid.  That's the worst, I know a kid like this, the worst is when the parent acts like they don't know why the kid is so scared.  Insult to injury.

[Rival]

Spanking as a controlled measure of discipline is okay, but it's a very fine line. It's arguable that it causes more harm than good because the 'right' way to spank is so dubious. I know too many parents who allow anger to get in the way of punishment. You should never, ever, ever hit your child when you are angry. Send the kid to his room first and calm down. Have him say why you are doing what you're doing. Use an open palm and don't hit to cause pain. 

 

Spanking a spouse to 'discipline' or harm them is immoral. Always. Same applies to any person other than your child under the correct circumstances. Children are underdeveloped and at a critical point in their psychodevelopmental processes. Spanking is a form of active, positive punishment (adding a stimulus into the environment as opposed to taking something away).

[Nymh]

Not for me. I gots 15 reps. 

I believe your reps are unlimited, m'dear.

[Sweeney]

Spanking is a form of active, positive punishment (adding a stimulus into the environment as opposed to taking something away).

 

Uh, what?

 

Adding stimulae isn't de facto preferable to the removal of them. I strongly dispute your assertion that physical punishment is a form of "positive punishment", which is a nonsense term in a league of its own.