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[Pyro699]

So, in the past when it comes time for us to test something i have always made an announcement thread, got people to send in resumes and crap like that. This time im going to try it a different way, those of you who are interested in testing this out, become a regular of the tinychat room and/or IRC room (links below). This will make communication much easier i believe, and in turn i can get better work done. So if you are interested i suggest starting that up now; i wont have a testable application done for a few weeks but joining these rooms now and letting me get to know you should help speed things along. Note that asking me to have it will probally just piss me off and result in me not even wanting to talk to you

 

For now a list of people i am interested in having test the program are (You don't have to, these are just the people id be cool with having it ):

*Elle

*Adam

*Futurama

*Emily

*Jiayu

*Yung

*Napiform

*Strategist

*Kate

 

 

IRC (irc.freenote.net #neocodex): http://www.neocodex.us/forum/ircChat/

TinyChat: http://www.tinychat.com

[Galadriel]

There is no way that using tinychat as a means of communication regarding the new program will be efficient or effective. I won't tell you what the cynic in me wants to say.

[Pyro699]

Because i care and value your opinion cronus

[Waser Lave]

There is no way that using tinychat as a means of communication regarding the new program will be efficient or effective. I won't tell you what the cynic in me wants to say.

What would you suggest as a better alternative?

[Turnip]

What would you suggest as a better alternative?

 

I was gonna say IRC (to be honest I don't think I've ever heard of people testing program things and using Tinychat of all things for discussing it), but the people Pyro wants to help him test it out all go in TC so I don't know how comfortable they'd be with using something different
┐( ´ Д ` )┌

 

It'd probably be best to keep everyone in the same area though hehehh

Edited by Turnip, 25 May 2013 - 08:06 AM.

[NapisaurusRex]

I was gonna say IRC (to be honest I don't think I've ever heard of people testing program things and using Tinychat of all things for discussing it), but the people Pyro wants to help him test it out all go in TC so I don't know how comfortable they'd be with using something different
 
It'd probably be best to keep everyone in the same area though hehehh

Honestly, I don't care between IRC and TC. I just like TC better because I don't know anything about anime and it's more active. (Every time I'm in IRC, everyone's just doing nothing.)

[Waser Lave]

I was gonna say IRC (to be honest I don't think I've ever heard of people testing program things and using Tinychat of all things for discussing it), but the people Pyro wants to help him test it out all go in TC so I don't know how comfortable they'd be with using something different
┐( ´ Д ` )┌
 
It'd probably be best to keep everyone in the same area though hehehh

I'd guess he's wanting to use Tinychat because it gives a more instant response than IRC and people can be topless.

[Turnip]

I just like TC better because I don't know anything about anime

 

?? What hahaha

I don't think I've ever seen you in there... We don't even talk about anime :V And you can just change the subject whenever you want its not like anyone is stopping you

 

Also it'd be more active if people actually went in there and talked rather than idling for a few minutes (assuming they go in there in the first place), not talking because they expect people to see them enter the channel without actually saying anything, then leaving  

 

See like this

[17:37:48] * Guest_340 has joined #neocodex
[17:38:13] * Guest_340 Quit (Client Quit)
 

 

I'd guess he's wanting to use Tinychat because it gives a more instant response than IRC and people can be topless.

 

Ehh? How is a lightweight platform which is just text less "instant" than bloaty flash things?~ If you use a decent standalone client you can just set it to beep/do the taskbar flash thing/whatever whenever someone talks in the channel lmao

 

 

But nyaaaa using what you're most comfortable with is best~ I'm just voicing my thoughts since using TC for testing and programming-related things is a bit... unusual, but hEY whatever hahah
I still think it's best just to keep everyone in one place though :0

Edited by Turnip, 25 May 2013 - 08:49 AM.

[luvsmyncis]

Someday you might find me in IRC or Tinychat and I want to help.

I don't want to put my neopets account at risk, though, so by help, what I mean is I will sit in chat and criticize you. It really helps a lot. Ask Kway.

[NapisaurusRex]

?? What hahaha
I don't think I've ever seen you in there... We don't even talk about anime :V And you can just change the subject whenever you want its not like anyone is stopping you

I haven't been there in months... I was still pregnant. (the baby is 6 months old now.)

Edited by Napiform, 25 May 2013 - 09:25 AM.

[Yung]

I think IRC would be the most appropriate as we can save the logs which allows more conclusive notes.

 

TinyChat may be more familiar but it lacks an easy way to log the discussion. Text based records are more conclusive than video records.

[Futurama]

I don't see what the problem is with using TC. If there was a problem, yo he'll solve it, check out my text while my computer runs it. No, but really, it's not hard to write down what people say...piece of paper and pencil (I KNOW OLD FASHION!), or you know, copy and paste into a notepad. TBH, the only people saying I don't know about TC are the ones that never get on TC...minus cronus, but he doesn't count. I'd go on IRC and do it if it was IRC only.

Edited by Futurama, 25 May 2013 - 10:08 AM.

[Yung]

I was just saying that since IRC can be set to automatically log the conversation that it is what should probably be used for tracking this. I expect him to grab a pad and pen to take physical notes if the need arises for such a thing as note taking.

[Turnip]

No, but really, it's not hard to write down what people say...piece of paper and pencil (I KNOW OLD FASHION!), or you know, copy and paste into a notepad.

 

Writing things down is a looot more time consuming than just opening a .txt file and seeing things like this already recorded for you:

 

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[21:29:56] <Kael_Sabel> Okay, here's my next update of the badge I'm working on, with a 100% less Autobot symbol shape
[21:29:58] <Kael_Sabel> http://i6.photobucke...edleBadge-5.png
[21:30:11] <Kael_Sabel> original one for reference
[21:30:13] <Kael_Sabel> http://www.pokemonv....eedle_Badge.png
[21:30:36] <Turnip> oh daaaamn <3
[21:30:47] <Turnip> looks great!
[21:31:45] <Kael_Sabel> Not necessarily done either, but I thought the badges could use a little bit of an update
[21:32:21] <@Dahamugo> >different dimensions than the original
[21:32:23] <@Dahamugo> well damn
[21:32:50] <Kael_Sabel> Vick told me to make it a little bigger
[21:33:40] <@Dahamugo> I wonder why
[21:34:20] <Kael_Sabel> Mainly so I could fit in the details without sacrificing quality
[21:34:37] <@Dahamugo> oh well
[21:34:43] <Flycone> not sure what was wrong with the first one
[21:34:44] <Flycone> but ok
[21:35:49] <Kael_Sabel> Well, I *as in my opinion* thought they felt slightly out of place, not to mention those solid black lines aren't really good for htings
[21:37:15] <Flycone> alright. I guess if you want to do them, then have at it.
[21:37:28] <Flycone> feels a bit too flashy for my tastes though

 

Sure copying it all down manually works but there's always a chance you'll miss something, and hell if people are getting topless on it then you know you're gonna get distracted ┐(' ~ `； )┌ You don't exactly have that problem with IRC because its text-only

 

Also, you can send files via XDCC if you need it for... some reason. No idea if there's a file sharing thing in TC heh

Edited by Turnip, 25 May 2013 - 10:28 AM.

[Futurama]

We can talk about this for all we want, but in the end it's Cody's decision, he decided to include both. Therefore no one should be mad, if one person likes IRC better than TC, then you can talk about it on IRC and vice versa.

[Jiayu]

I didn't realize I was a regular on TC... too bad I don't use shells and won't be able to help test it unless I decide to set up a proxy.

[Sweeney]

Posting a list of people you want to test the program?

 

Circlejerk!

[Mishelle]

I also think it would be better to use IRC mostly because TC can be quite buggy when it wants to be.

[Yung]

I also think it would be better to use IRC mostly because TC can be quite buggy when it wants to be.

 

So can IRC for that matter.

 

You've clearly never been there during a room split. lol

[Turnip]

So can IRC for that matter.

 

You've clearly never been there during a room split. lol

 

That's just because of the servers being silly and to be honest it doesn't happen all that much on Freenode You rejoin the channel fairly quickly anyways~

 

Qchat can be buggy though, where it stops sending your messages/you can't see other people's messages and it eventually times you out and forces you to rejoin, but that literally never happens if you use a different better client (e.g. xchat, mIRC, IRSSI, etc)

[Yung]

I use ChatZilla, the Firefox Extension. Most reliable client I've ever used and I prefer the black and white contrast.

[Yung]

I put together a list of everything that everyone wanted to see added to the new Abrosia for your convenience. This is what I was working on when you banned me from TC earlier.

 

The List:

 

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• Better Scheduling System (Including choosing alternating, varying times)
• List of how many people per shop list. (Might make it an Advanced/Advanced+ perk to choose to be invisible)
• Multi-Account Functionality
• Work with Neopets Premium bar on
• Prioritize items on manual lists
• SSW support
• Separate the buy delays for the Main Shops, AAA, and Igloo.
• Control over delay for Item Management functions
• Better SW (NOT SSW) pricing.
• Stop going to the Attic if you've already hit your 10 item cap (but continue if it's a new day)
• Ghost Items need to stop being prioritized.
• Fix logging.
• Shop Clearing Function, "Buy x items under the cost of y np."
• Support for Internet Connection Lag/Timeout/Lost
• Schedule override if X amount of users enter a shop.
• Real time overlay of items in the shop
• Automatically send everything to the shop THEN the SDB when the shop is full whenever inventory hits 50 items.
• Variable shop switch scheduling. (Spend X amount of time here then Y amount of time there)
• Blacklisted Items List
• Maximum Profit
• Prioritize Lowest/Lower profit items first.
• Set max number of items in shop (lower than profit minimum) before automatically switching to a different shop.
• Multiple manual lists with switch shop functionality
• Option to stop Abrosia immediately if IP changes.
• Auto reject faerie quests/crafting faerie quests
• Auto complete faerie quests if under X amount
• Don't reject FFQ
• Custom Audio Notifications
• Authenticated Proxy Support
• Browser Synchronization
• Humanism.
• AAA Timer customization
• Item Rarity Caps
• Pre-haggle removed immediately following purchase for X amount of seconds
• Indicate Notifications; Neomail, TP Activity, Etc.
• Auto-Log off at X time.

 

 

[Pyro699]

Just a heads up, that this is not dead. I am planning on doing this; its just i've started to do some work on the new program manager. Abrosia 2.0 (or what ever you want it name it) will be released in it xD

[Waser Lave]

Abrosia 2.0 (or what ever you want it name it)

Hmm, we're going to have to get thinking about that.

[Trey]

Let's call the new Abrosia... Ambrosia! It will at least save us time on having to constantly correct members on their spelling...

Edited by Trey, 18 June 2013 - 03:04 AM.