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[Romy]

are you kidding me with these news reports that Hillary has secured the nomination?

Counting pledged super delegates, she has.

[DonValentino]

Counting pledged super delegates, she has.

Considering they don't vote until the convention, she hasn't. 

[Adam]

Considering they don't vote until the convention, she hasn't. 

I'm sure she has either paid them off, or promised all of them some sort of tax cut. I feel like Bernie can't buy supporters.

[DonValentino]

Just made possibly my last facebook post for Bernie :'(

 

Yesterday's premature crowning of Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee is a perfect example of why Bernie Sander's supporters want him to stay in the race. Reporters and supporters of hers have continually treated Sanders, and by extension his supporters, as little more than a thorn in her side on her way to her inevitable nomination. They've called for him to drop out in order to unify the Democratic party, but what they apparently fail to understand is that we see the party as flawed. The way this election has been handled has laid bare the errors in our system, and we see Senator Sanders as the candidate who best reflects our views on this matter. We want him to run as long as possible because the differences between Sanders and Clinton are great enough that voting for her is a difficult premise, and is not something I'll blindly do just because the Democratic party tells me to. 
If Hillary secures enough delegates (NOT superdelegates, who haven't voted yet) before the convention, then she is the Democratic candidate. I won't fight that. But as a wise man once said, "It ain't over till it's over."

[ShadowLink64]

Just made possibly my last facebook post for Bernie :'(

 

Yesterday's premature crowning of Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee is a perfect example of why Bernie Sander's supporters want him to stay in the race. Reporters and supporters of hers have continually treated Sanders, and by extension his supporters, as little more than a thorn in her side on her way to her inevitable nomination. They've called for him to drop out in order to unify the Democratic party, but what they apparently fail to understand is that we see the party as flawed. The way this election has been handled has laid bare the errors in our system, and we see Senator Sanders as the candidate who best reflects our views on this matter. We want him to run as long as possible because the differences between Sanders and Clinton are great enough that voting for her is a difficult premise, and is not something I'll blindly do just because the Democratic party tells me to. 
If Hillary secures enough delegates (NOT superdelegates, who haven't voted yet) before the convention, then she is the Democratic candidate. I won't fight that. But as a wise man once said, "It ain't over till it's over."

#StillSanders

[Mishelle]

Just made possibly my last facebook post for Bernie :'(

 

Yesterday's premature crowning of Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee is a perfect example of why Bernie Sander's supporters want him to stay in the race. Reporters and supporters of hers have continually treated Sanders, and by extension his supporters, as little more than a thorn in her side on her way to her inevitable nomination. They've called for him to drop out in order to unify the Democratic party, but what they apparently fail to understand is that we see the party as flawed. The way this election has been handled has laid bare the errors in our system, and we see Senator Sanders as the candidate who best reflects our views on this matter. We want him to run as long as possible because the differences between Sanders and Clinton are great enough that voting for her is a difficult premise, and is not something I'll blindly do just because the Democratic party tells me to. 
If Hillary secures enough delegates (NOT superdelegates, who haven't voted yet) before the convention, then she is the Democratic candidate. I won't fight that. But as a wise man once said, "It ain't over till it's over."

 

It's so annoying to me that whenever I bring up a legitimate critique of Hillary all I get from her supporters is "SO YOU WANT TRUMP TO WIN?" or "YOU THINK TRUMP WOULD BE BETTER?" or some variation of using Trump to fear-monger.

[DonValentino]

Oh how the turn tables

 

[NapisaurusRex]

It's so annoying to me that whenever I bring up a legitimate critique of Hillary all I get from her supporters is "SO YOU WANT TRUMP TO WIN?" or "YOU THINK TRUMP WOULD BE BETTER?" or some variation of using Trump to fear-monger.

My dad does this when I criticize Trump. "SO YOU WANT HILLARY TO WIN?" No, dad, it's just Trump can do everything but the one thing I want someone to.

[Swim]

Jeez this twitter war between trump and hillary tho

 

https://ca.news.yaho...-203600820.html

[LostinSpace]

My dad does this when I criticize Trump. "SO YOU WANT HILLARY TO WIN?" No, dad, it's just Trump can do everything but the one thing I want someone to.

 

What is the one thing you want a president to accomplish?  For me, the biggest issue is our bloated debt.  Doesn't anyone know how to balance a checkbook??

[NapisaurusRex]

What is the one thing you want a president to accomplish?  For me, the biggest issue is our bloated debt.  Doesn't anyone know how to balance a checkbook??

Fix/repeal Obamacare. I realize it helped loads and loads of people and I get that. But there's loads and loads it hurt instead.

[DonValentino]

[NapisaurusRex]

My mom decided today she's voting for Hillary because "she might be a criminal but at least we know it and who knows what trump's done" that's not a valid reason

[Kaddict]

My mom decided today she's voting for Hillary because "she might be a criminal but at least we know it and who knows what trump's done" that's not a valid reason

That logic to me = "I like this prisoner, because even though he is a pedophile rapist, at least we all know it-- whereas I don't know whether or not this random dude on the street is a rapist or not."

[NapisaurusRex]

That logic to me = "I like this prisoner, because even though he is a pedophile rapist, at least we all know it-- whereas I don't know whether or not this random dude on the street is a rapist or not."

That's exactly how I took it.

[Mishelle]

"Assange said the leaked emails revealed that she overrode the Pentagon’s reluctance to overthrow sovereign Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi in 2011, and that “they predicted the post-war outcome would be what it is, which is ISIS taking over the country.”"

https://www.rt.com/u...on-assange-fbi/

Loretta Lynch isn't going to indict Hillary but I'm still here for this scalding hot tea.

[Bone]

That logic to me = "I like this prisoner, because even though he is a pedophile rapist, at least we all know it-- whereas I don't know whether or not this random dude on the street is a rapist or not."

 

Lol @ this meaningless hyperbole

 

What is the one thing you want a president to accomplish?  For me, the biggest issue is our bloated debt.  Doesn't anyone know how to balance a checkbook??

 

Why is that your biggest issue? This quora page has a good overview of the topic, and why it doesn't matter as much as you might think it does.

[NapisaurusRex]

Not so simple. To achieve that, the United States would have to either raise taxes or cut programs, both extremely popular. So, how do you balance a checkbook when no one in Washington actually wants to do so?
How would you fix Obamacare? Just curious.

I hate to say this, but make it standardized across the nation, raise the max amount you can make before being penalized, take out everything that isn't directly related to healthcare and/or repeal it entirely and start over. It could've been really successful and worked well. 

[DonValentino]

https://berniesanders.com/stream/

[Mishelle]

I hate to say this, but make it standardized across the nation, raise the max amount you can make before being penalized, take out everything that isn't directly related to healthcare and/or repeal it entirely and start over. It could've been really successful and worked well. 

 

Yeah they definitely need to raise the amounts it takes to be penalized because there are so many people who don't make enough to afford healthcare but also make too much to be covered under Medicaid. Plus there are states that still refuse to pass the medicaid expansion and they're leaving millions of people fucked. But then again if the law just made states do it they'd be sued for ~government overreach~ or whatever.

 

I don't understand why we can't have universal healthcare like every other developed nation.

[DonValentino]

GG Hillary you win

[Adam]

GG Hillary you win

I wonder who she paid off.

[Mishelle]

I love how Hillary just casually borrowed Bernie's affordable tuition plan after arguing that it was unrealistic for damn near a year.

[Romy]

I love how Hillary just casually borrowed Bernie's affordable tuition plan after arguing that it was unrealistic for damn near a year.

Sanders said he would endorse her only if she adopted some of his policies.

The tuition thing was one of the ones she agreed to take.

[Coops]

Sanders said he would endorse her only if she adopted some of his policies.

The tuition thing was one of the ones she agreed to take.

I guess I can be okay with that.. sigh. I will take what I can get at this point with fucking politicians. I still fucking hate her.