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[pyke]

I know they can help many induviduals out, but it's not the place to. There's a younger audience then most people realise, here. For example, what if I were immature and didn't like how people were making topics about drugs, how they use them, which they prefer, etc? Well then I'll leave. However, it's not the case for me, so meh, but drugs are an extremly harmful thing, pyke. I'm absolutly all for threads based on people looking for help with drug problems, wanting to learn about them and their harmful affects, etc, however, the majority of Codex will most likely not make these threads.
Threads about which drugs are better, which you prefer, how you get them, how expensive or cheap they are, etc, are not appropriate topics for younger children to read. Not everyone is at the same maturity level. If you like discussing dugs, then for Chsists sake, do it in another forum, where it's not child friendly, where it's mainly for an older audience. It's silly to have those threads. Mainly because nobody educated cares about how people are hurting themselves. It's their bussiness.
-cara xoxox

(^^notice how Im adding the 'xox' at the end .. showing I dont mean anything negative, and sorry if I imply it. )

I should edit it out of your post and get all offended .

I think there is a large misconception about drugs being harmful. Because almost anything taken in excess is harmful. Do to many drugs? You might die depending on which drug. Drink to much? Liver damage, alcohol poisoning and potential death. Eat to much? Become overweight and suffer many potetnial health problems. It can be applied to so many things. There are two main reasons why drugs are so harmful. A) People aren't educated on them and harm themselves since they are too stupid for their own good. B) Because it isn't govenment controlled. since your buying it off the street, drugs can be laced with all sorts of things.

I have yet to see a topic on this site that directly promotes drug use or talks about to get it. If I did I'd close it

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

you realize that the law, society, and practically everything was all influenced from one source...? the government. It's also a fact that the government has and does lie to us.. look around you jackass.. nearly 80% of U.S. highschool seniors have tried alcohol... and illegal neurotoxic drug for them.. a percentage not to far behind is marijuana.. an also illegal drug although the harsh damages that occur (disregarding ill effects on the lungs..(although there are other means of injesting marijuana)) my favourite quote from a t-shirt goes well with this discussion. "Sure we can win the war on drugs... we only have to incarcerate another 107 million people first!"

So because kids do something that makes it good? The credibility goes to the life-inexperienced youth? Ummm. kay.

And aw, I thought we could keep this civil, but I guess not

[Amagius]

Once again, you prove my point. You say that I lead you to believe I'm ignorant, but all you have to base that on is the fact that I disapprove of drugs. Which is exactly what I just said... You refuse to believe that anyone who disapproves can be anything but ignorant. I'm quite sure that if a genius scholar of drugs marched into this forum right now and disapproved, you'd all call him ignorant for it.

The law, society, practically everything supports my point. Yet why am I the one that you are insisting proves it? Look around. It's you that should be the one trying to convince that time-tested wisdom and theory, and society and its laws itself, are incorrect.

And telling you what I have done serves no purpose. Infamous tried the same thing in the other topic. Do you not believe someone is a war veteran if they don't tell you the play-by-play on how they shot an enemy in the face?

Believe me or don't, I don't really care, but you aren't really helping your own case by just passing it off as ignorant and not believing me when I say I've done it. What you're doing is showing that you lack any other good arguments, so you have to attack my credibility.

I'm afraid my credibility is not the issue here, my friend It's drugs.

Haha, I can't give up a passion-worthy debate.

You lead us to believe you're ignorant, as you speak the same agenda as the ignorant. You rely on the law and societary standards for your judgment -- you never think that society was misled. For that, you are ignorant. You may think that I wax conspiracy theory, but you're telling me that this is how you go about basing your judgment!

Look, if YOU want credibility to oppose drugs on an accurate level, just tell me what you know. I'll accept it as fact, if only for the sake your argument, but you cannot act like I have no right. You haven't proven anything, you've just restated the usual, "DRUGS ARE BAD BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT, SOCIETY, AND MEDIA TOLD ME SO." Why should I think you have any information?

[Darkness]

I don't see why people are arguing. The topic was made to see who would rather see drug topics on codex or not. Obviously, if the 'yes' side is higher the banning them would be hurting more people, and helping less, which is foolish. Same goes for the 'no' side.

Not arguing. More or less a debate to me, proving my point, and if someone conflicts with it, I debate it with them. I see nothing wrong with any of it.

[Christopher Robin]

Aw, you COULD keep it civil, if your head wasn't stuck up your ass.

[Darkness]

Except for the fact that this is not the debate section, and as brkn has already said, it was not intended as one.

It wasn't intended as one, but little can be done about that now. Just move it then, because you can't stop everyone from posting without closing it, in turn, you can't vote.

[Cuteangel333]

When does the poll close?

P.S. Getting a gram of Coke soon.

[dolphinbomb]

I personally don't care what's discussed as long as it doesn't break the boundaries of common decency, so yes. I'm all for drug topics.

Unfortunately, (And it's been mentioned before by the admins) Our host doesn't approve of them, so the point is moot.

[pyke]

Except for the fact that this is not the debate section, and as brkn has already said, it was not intended as one.

Something like this is naturally going to turn into some form of debate or another. IN fact I might move it soon

And trixx, there was no need for that at all. This is a verbal warning.

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

You lead us to believe you're ignorant, as you speak the same agenda as the ignorant.

There are only two positions really... For and against. I mean you can try to divvy it up to this drug is okay and this one isn't, but in large part you're either for it or against it. And you're saying the against side is ignorant... By your logic, if I want to convince you, I have to come up with some crazy ass reason no one you disapprove of has come up with yet. And being crazy, it would of course be wrong. You're essentially saying I'm ignorant because I hold a position that you disagree with.

You rely on the law and societary standards for your judgment -- you never think that society was misled. For that, you are ignorant. You may think that I wax conspiracy theory, but you're telling me that this is how you go about basing your judgment!

I used it to help my case, I don't base everything upon it. If you'd like me to start throwing out links of how drugs harm society, and some deep essay on why drugs aren't good, I could do that as well... But I'm not exactly inclined to waste so much time doing that until I get some argument from the other side besides "You're ignorant, I don't believe you, I think drugs are fine."

Look, if YOU want credibility to oppose drugs on an accurate level, just tell me what you know. I'll accept it as fact, if only for the sake your argument, but you cannot act like I have no right. You haven't proven anything, you've just restated the usual, "DRUGS ARE BAD BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT, SOCIETY, AND MEDIA TOLD ME SO."

Once again, the issue is drugs, not my credibility. Why do you keep bringing it back to me? I did not invent drugs, nor did I create some coalition against drugs, so whether drugs or good or bad or whatever, I have no personal stake in it. I am not the issue of debate here, it is drugs.

If you support drugs and want to argue for them, then argue for them. Arguing that I don't know what I'm talking about because I won't tell you what drugs I've done doesn't prove anything.

Why should I think you have any information?

Why should I think you do either? Personally, I don't care if you do or not, because you aren't the issue... Unless you're a marijuana plant. Then we may have something to talk about

Edited by BrknPhoenix, 04 July 2006 - 07:09 PM.

[cara]

I should edit it out of your post and get all offended .
I think there is a large misconception about drugs being harmful. Because almost anything taken in excess is harmful. Do to many drugs? You might die depending on which drug. Drink to much? Liver damage, alcohol poisoning and potential death. Eat to much? Become overweight and suffer many potetnial health problems. It can be applied to so many things. There are two main reasons why drugs are so harmful. A) People aren't educated on them and harm themselves since they are too stupid for their own good. B) Because it isn't govenment controlled. since your buying it off the street, drugs can be laced with all sorts of things.
I have yet to see a topic on this site that directly promotes drug use or talks about to get it. If I did I'd close it

Yes, alot of things are harmful. But it doesn't mean drugs arn't. And I know that no one has made a thread like that, mainly because we're almost all educated, mature people. However, the occasional few comes along.
I just think it's really not an appropriate topic to be talking freely about .. it's a child friendly site. Not a druggie help forum or anything of the sort ..
-cara x

[Charmender]

I know i do certain drugs, i wouldnt try and promote them or try and get others to use them, but it would be nice to talk about them with other users

[Cuteangel333]

I'm pretty sure this topic turned around and bit BrknPhoenix in the ass.

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Aw, you COULD keep it civil, if your head wasn't stuck up your ass.

So disliking drugs means I have my head stuck up my ass? My my, your arguments just keep getting better and better. People like you are exactly why people like me get so intense in these discussions Keep it up.

I'm pretty sure this topic turned around and bit BrknPhoenix in the ass.

As I said in a post on the first page, I expected it to be light to heavy 'Yes' early on. I'm not surprised where it is at right now

[Cuteangel333]

So disliking drugs means I have my head stuck up my ass? My my, your arguments just keep getting better and better. People like you are exactly why people like me get so intense in these discussions Keep it up.

No, you take a perfectly good topic, pack it full of your anti-drug shit, then prevent me from getting to know some of the members. That's why you have your head stuck up your ass.

http://www.freevibe.com

| i | d | i | o | c | y |
- Your Anti-Drug

[pyke]

Yes, alot of things are harmful. But it doesn't mean drugs arn't. And I know that no one has made a thread like that, mainly because we're almost all educated, mature people. However, the occasional few comes along.
I just think it's really not an appropriate topic to be talking freely about .. it's a child friendly site. Not a druggie help forum or anything of the sort ..
-cara x

I can agree that codex is supposed to be a child friendly site. Which is also why I promote the idea of a mature section with disclaimers ridden through it. I think its the best solution because it is a lot easier to avoid a subforum then avoid topics all over gc and the debate forum

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

No, you take a perfectly good topic, pack it full of your anti-drug shit, then prevent me from getting to know some of the members. That's why you have your head stuck up your ass.

http://www.freevibe.com

| i | d | i | o | c | y |
- Your Anti-Drug

I like how you keep blaming the closing of your topic on me when I'm not even a mod. I must've used my magic powers to sabotage and close your topic before I even knew it existed, didn't I? Awesome. Your logical abilities continue to astound me.

Oh, and another person saying i'm ignorant/an idiot for disliking drugs. These arguments are so tough, I just don't know what I'll do!

[Cuteangel333]

I like how you keep blaming the closing of your topic on me when I'm not even a mod. I must've used my magic powers to sabotage and close your topic before I even knew it existed, didn't I? Awesome. Your logical abilities continue to astound me.

Oh, and another person saying i'm ignorant/an idiot for disliking drugs. These arguments are so tough, I just don't know what I'll do!

You did the equivilent of trolling, and that fucks up my topics. I DID mistake you for a mod, but you still fucked up my topic.

If you don't like drugs, DON'T POST. It's really simple.

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

I'll be back in like 15 minutes, don't miss me too much while I'm gone

[pyke]

I closed that topic because this topic seemed more suitable for the matter in discussion.

And what the hell is the matter with you people? You can't just debate you have to insult eachother as well. Its pathetic and annoying.

[Cuteangel333]

I closed that topic because this topic seemed more suitable for the matter in discussion.

And what the hell is the matter with you people? You can't just debate you have to insult eachother as well. Its pathetic and annoying.

Who closed my original topic? Seeing as currently 71% of the users approve of the talk of drugs, can I have my god damned topic back? I wasn't promoting drugs, I wasn't insulting anyone, I wasn't causing harm to anyone. I just wanted to know who here uses drugs.

[cara]

No, you take a perfectly good topic, pack it full of your anti-drug shit, then prevent me from getting to know some of the members. That's why you have your head stuck up your ass.

It's truly disgusting how you think by getting to know how people like to get wasted is something that brings people together. You're truly un-educated. hmpf. The xox at the end of this post really isn't for you. -shrugs-

I can agree that codex is supposed to be a child friendly site. Which is also why I promote the idea of a mature section with disclaimers ridden through it. I think its the best solution because it is a lot easier to avoid a subforum then avoid topics all over gc and the debate forum

Like the retired forum, basically.
Pyke, is it me, or are you the only one (and me .. hmpf ) laughing in this thread?

I closed that topic because this topic seemed more suitable for the matter in discussion.
And what the hell is the matter with you people? You can't just debate you have to insult eachother as well. Its pathetic and annoying.

QFE! Agree! ^^^^^^^^^

cara xoxx

Who closed my original topic? Seeing as currently 71% of the users approve of the talk of drugs, can I have my god damned topic back? I wasn't promoting drugs, I wasn't insulting anyone, I wasn't causing harm to anyone. I just wanted to know who here uses drugs.

What the hell does it matter!?
And seriously!!! Not even one tenth of the members are on!
Omg!
This thread is so upsetting .. Im going to have to hide behind someone now. *nods*

[Cuteangel333]

It's truly disgusting how you think by getting to know how people like to get wasted is something that brings people together. You're truly un-educated. hmpf. The xox at the end of this post really isn't for you. -shrugs-

What the fuck? Are you fucking kidding me? I was taking a freaking survey of the forums to see who uses drugs. PEROID. The message at the end of my post is ONLY for you.

Funny how a druggy like me can wrap my mind around that, but you fail to.

(Go kill yourself).

[Amagius]

I want make sure to note that you twisted my words around by separating them.

I don't want to spend any more time bouncing, "It's your turn to fight!" As, I've fought a bit more in previous threads and all I saw from you was emotional attempts, and it really isn't getting us anywhere. I see the err in trying to get you to oppose drugs in some informational way, as you expect every drug aficionado to prove to you that society is in the wrong -- I think Cody has done enough to prove it.

All you've done in the way of opposing drugs is stating the law forbids them, society is against drugs due to overdoses and addiction, and that law must be there for a reason. You haven't shown that drugs will kill you ON SIGHT; you haven't proven that drugs will harm anyone who uses them permanently or that drugs are worse than many products we have out today. Nothing. Debates work in teams, as I'm sure you've got. For and Against. Cody has stated SO MUCH information about this, and I'm waiting for you to do something -- anything to prove him wrong. Give us a media report about how drugs cause crime, we can give you reasons that COULD be avoided, things we DON'T support that happen, and how the media DOES create information.

I just want you to say anything information. Tell me about your monkey. I don't give a damn. I'm just tired of the rhetoric we've thrown about. Information is interesting and educational, but rhetoric is simply taxing and bureaucratic-esque.

I am really going to quit, as this is a poll and I'm tired of it. You know how people say cocaine kills? Not as much as compared to rhetoric and debates.

[cara]

What the fuck? Are you fucking kidding me? I was taking a freaking survey of the forums to see who uses drugs. PEROID. The message at the end of my post is ONLY for you.
Funny how a druggy like me can wrap my mind around that, but you fail to.
(Go kill yourself).

How am I supposed to respond to that?
Alright .. I'll go kill myself 'cause some stranger druggie is telling me to. O__o

And .. no? Im not kidding you? How am I supposed to respond to that .. seriously .. O-----o
What's the point on who uses drugs? It's their bussiness.
You're seriously a negative person. -and not very nice to be around. I think you should get educated, realise how immature you look, and then come and ask me to kill myself ..
And omfg! You just said you wanted to get to know people through a drug thread! Man! Don't take it out on me, ffs. Im not the one that closed it. Seriously. Back the hell off. Calm down, think, and stop.
-cara xx