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[Hydrogen]

I just want to remind everyone that the staff always reserves the right to make decisions regardless of public opinion. Though we do heavily base our decisions on public thought and what everyone sees as best for the board, we reserve the right to make our own decisions.

This poll will be useful in making a final decision on this subject.

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Who care about law? The law isn't always right, so forget about that. What if the law said you couldn't visit this forum? Also, you are an emotional small girl. You're obviously brainwashed by the media.

Once again, stating they're not right without any reasons. And of course, anyone with a differing opinion than you is brainwashed. Just keep on believing that, if it makes it easier for you to sleep at night.

Oh, I forgot the small girl part.... *giggle* Teehee!

There we go. Gotta keep up the image.

[Cuteangel333]

Once again, stating they're not right without any reasons. And of course, anyone with a differing opinion than you is brainwashed. Just keep on believing that, if it makes it easier for you to sleep at night.

Oh, I forgot the small girl part.... *giggle* Teehee!

There we go. Gotta keep up the image.

If I backed up every single thing I said, I'd write a book. You haven't backed up everything you've said either... I.E "Drugs are bad".

[pyke]

I think you have both stated that neither side has given evidence to their argument. I think you should both go ahead and post your evidence since oyur both using that argument.

[Kitchwa]

Unique cases? I'm pretty sure me, Cody and a load of other people can handle drugs. If Cody didn't tell you he was a Cocaine user you'd never know. You couldn't take that into account before, therefore you only see the messed up drug users.

My argument is not that. My argument is that we should be allowed to discuss drugs, I don't think kids can come across it either since I believe the EULA thinger when you sign up says you must be 13, not sure though.

Drugs should not be taboo, neither should sex, politics or religion. I just can't stand literally KIDS like Cara who enter this debate with the words "Drugs are bad" and "Be nice!" to say and nothing else. If you don't know how drugs affect your body and WHY they are bad, don't speak.

I've had enough of the ignorance, I want to give up on this.
Who care about law? The law isn't always right, so forget about that. What if the law said you couldn't visit this forum? Also, you are an emotional small girl. You're obviously brainwashed by the media.
Anything can kill you, you're more likely to die from walking to school than smoking marijuana or popping an E every 2 weeks.

Shut up
This is a website for neopets, GFx and many other things for young people. You dont want young people to come to codex to see people talking about drugs would you? God you get on my nerves -_-. Just stop bitching about everything. This wouldnt have happened if you didnt make your thread bitching about why your old thread got closed. You've pissed me off now im in a bad mood. This is the 1st time ive acted like an old grump on codex but it needed to be done.

[cara]

Unique cases? I'm pretty sure me, Cody and a load of other people can handle drugs. If Cody didn't tell you he was a Cocaine user you'd never know. You couldn't take that into account before, therefore you only see the messed up drug users.
My argument is not that. My argument is that we should be allowed to discuss drugs, I don't think kids can come across it either since I believe the EULA thinger when you sign up says you must be 13, not sure though.
Drugs should not be taboo, neither should sex, politics or religion. I just can't stand literally KIDS like Cara who enter this debate with the words "Drugs are bad" and "Be nice!" to say and nothing else. If you don't know how drugs affect your body and WHY they are bad, don't speak.
I've had enough of the ignorance, I want to give up on this.
Who care about law? The law isn't always right, so forget about that. What if the law said you couldn't visit this forum? Also, you are an emotional small girl. You're obviously brainwashed by the media.

Sooo in other words you're upset because I came in here saying I dont support the idea and drugs are bad? Well that's logical. *nods*
You never asked me why drugs were bad .. I presumed you knew. Along with everybody else. I guess Im wrong. And unlike you, I can admit to a mistake and learn from it.
Sex, politics and religion are three other things. Sex should be enjoyed by an older audience. --or sorry, do you think that children should be exposed to that, too?
Politics are basically for educated people, but children may debate, too. And religion, if you're educated, you can certainly state your beliefs.
And I care about the law. If everybody thought like that, people would be raping women, etc.. And the law isn't always wrong. It's there for a reson. You think I havn't done drugs? Please, keep your comments to yourself, thank you. And .. drugs being harmful is a FACT. Despite who on earth says so, it's a true, proven, marked, fact. Im not emotional. Psh. Keep your comments like that to yourself, they get you no where with anyone anywhere. And Im not small. Im just as tall as you are right now. Or everbody else. I may literally be small in real life, but it's not the point. You're assumptions are horribly wrong. You couldn't know less about me. This thread isn't on my personal life, so, please, stop commenting on it.
-cara x

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

I've yet to say "they're wrong" or "you're ignorant". I do believe I've posted several instances in hitory in which society and/or the government was wrong and the views and laws changed because of new common thought and logic.

If people used the same logic you are asking... we may still believe the world to be flat and america to have never been discovered.

Innovative thinking makes the world go round.

Alright, if we want to run under the assumption that the law is wrong, the government is wrong, and society is wrong, then let's boil it down to pros and cons, law aside.

Do you believe the majority of people can handle drugs? Or do they all have to be experts in the science to know how? If that's the case, I'm pretty certain a lot of people out there can't handle it. A lot of people go into drugs being 'ignorant' of what they're about, and they end of wastes of air and a plague on society.

I hope I don't have to offer proof of that, but I will if I must. One only needs to look... anywhere... For examples of stupid people that couldn't control themselves doing stupid things on drugs.

Also, consider things like professions. I seriously can't see doing drugs being helpful in many professions, yet I can see them hindering almost all of them. Do you want a doctor to operate on you if he's a little shaky from getting a little too wild at a party last night? Do you want a lawyer to represent you in a case even though he's been religiously snorting coke all week and his mind is a little fuzzy?

Pros vs. Cons.... I don't see a lot of pros, but I see an awful lot of cons.

[Cuteangel333]

Shut up
This is a website for neopets, GFx and many other things for young people. You dont want young people to come to codex to see people talking about drugs would you? God you get on my nerves -_-. Just stop bitching about everything. This wouldnt have happened if you didnt make your thread bitching about why your old thread got closed. You've pissed me off now im in a bad mood. This is the 1st time ive acted like an old grump on codex but it needed to be done.

Excuse me? I have every right to post about drugs, as I said a million time: There are posts about alcohol and getting drunk, ALCOHOL IS A DRUG. Why aren't those boards closed?

I'm glad I've pissed you off, because you deserve to feel that way.

[Cuteangel333]

Alright, if we want to run under the assumption that the law is wrong, the government is wrong, and society is wrong, then let's boil it down to pros and cons, law aside.

Do you believe the majority of people can handle drugs? Or do they all have to be experts in the science to know how? If that's the case, I'm pretty certain a lot of people out there can't handle it. A lot of people go into drugs being 'ignorant' of what they're about, and they end of wastes of air and a plague on society.

I hope I don't have to offer proof of that, but I will if I must. One only needs to look... anywhere... For examples of stupid people that couldn't control themselves doing stupid things on drugs.

Also, consider things like professions. I seriously can't see doing drugs being helpful in many professions, yet I can see them hindering almost all of them. Do you want a doctor to operate on you if he's a little shaky from getting a little too wild at a party last night? Do you want a lawyer to represent you in a case even though he's been religiously snorting coke all week and his mind is a little fuzzy?

Pros vs. Cons.... I don't see a lot of pros, but I see an awful lot of cons.

Again you assume this happens from drugs. You also assume it's ok to be high all the time. You're making these false assumptions that lead you to go wayyyyyyy off track.

[pyke]

anyone else like how all my posts are completely disregarded?

Hey I am not arguing with you, but I will say this. Your points are valid and should be properly argued against

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

or.. get this.. it's a fucking crazy concept.. I know.. but what if laws aren't needed to tell men they shouldn't rape women.. but rather they should have the moral code not to..?

Yet they do anyway... Do you really think that taking away laws against it would HELP the situation? Most people are stupid and cannot be trusted without guidance. It's a sad fact of life.

[Kitchwa]

Excuse me? I have every right to post about drugs, as I said a million time: There are posts about alcohol and getting drunk, ALCOHOL IS A DRUG. Why aren't those boards closed?

I'm glad I've pissed you off, because you deserve to feel that way.

You may have rights to post about your drug problems but you shouldnt. As i said before if you missed it here it is again: THIS IS A SITE WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE COME TO YOU SHOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT DRUGS ON THIS SITE. If you didnt see what i wrote right there^ this time then your just plain stupid.

[Cuteangel333]

If the law is so right...

Which would cause more fatalities:

1) Legalizing drugs, banishing guns.
2) Leaving drugs illegal, allow guns.

[pyke]

I understand the law is needed for the irresponsible.. but for those with a decent moral code and those responsible enough, I don't believe such limitations and restrictions must be placed upon them.

Why should the actions of a few fuck things up for many?

I think you over estimate the intelligence of the average person

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Again you assume this happens from drugs.

Yeah, I assume it's from drugs... It's like assuming drunk drivers kill people because they're drunk. It's not a huge leap. Why is the drunk driving stuff acceptable for you to believe, but all of the statistics and beliefs on drugs today are not?

You also assume it's ok to be high all the time.

I'm taking into account the people that cannot handle it, which is many. I can make that judgement off of the statements of the pro-drug people here. You are all saying it's good for people to know about it, and that having a deeper knowledge of drugs makes it safer. It's pretty clear though that most people go into drugs without this knowledge, which would in fact make them dangerous.

Just because you or Cody aren't high all the time doesn't mean there aren't people that are high all the time. I know as a matter of fact that there are people that are stoned off their asses 24/7, and as responsible as some people can be, it won't fix them.

I'd love to continue, but I just got a phone call, and I'll be going to sleep after that. I suppose this will continue (at least for me) later.

[cara]

or.. get this.. it's a fucking crazy concept.. I know.. but what if laws aren't needed to tell men they shouldn't rape women.. but rather they should have the moral code not to..?
*GASPS*
and drugs being harmful.. jesus.. do people really not read my posts?

Actually, sorry, no .. I havn't. Im a little occupied with writing long posts to one person, replying to PMs, and cleaning my room.
And .. Cody, you of everyone knows about my past, seriously, don't say that to me .. Not every man has morals. If the law that men weren't alowed to rape women weren't there, alot of men would be raping and molesting females, unfortunetly. We're not exactly in a perfect world. -shrugs-

Again you assume this happens from drugs. You also assume it's ok to be high all the time. You're making these false assumptions that lead you to go wayyyyyyy off track.

I didn't say it was okay to be high all the time .. O_____o
Im not off track .. Im not the one saying everyone who disagrees with me is brainwashed.

[Ender]

I realize that we're having a productive debate here; but regardless of the situation flaming isn't necessary. Watch it.

[Cuteangel333]

Just to clear up my opinions, I believe:

1) Drugs are not bad when they are in the hands of the right people, they can be the exact opposite.
2) The discussion of drugs should not be taboo, not here, not anywhere.
3) Drugs should be illegal for people under 18 (although I will continue doing drugs no matter what the law is).
4) Alcohol and other drugs should be treated THE SAME.

I also want everyone here to visit http://www.erowid.org and find out what drugs really do to you before you go against them.

Some drugs actually increase productivity and ease depression and anxiety.

I just want to be able to talk about drugs, THAT'S ALL.

Edited by InfamousX241, 04 July 2006 - 08:34 PM.

[Kitchwa]

The discussion of drugs should not be taboo, not here, not anywhere.

Did u not understad what i said? This is the last time im going to say it. Many young people such as myself come to codex when i came to codex i expected a nice little community where everyone is friendly, not a community where everyone was talking about drugs. Look im tired of talking to you. Your just.. annoying. Now im getting over this because i dont really like being a grump. I'm sorry to all that i have annoyed

[Cuteangel333]

Did u not understad what i said? This is the last time im going to say it. Many young people such as myself come to codex when i came to codex i expected a nice little community where everyone is friendly, not a community where everyone was talking about drugs. Look im tired of talking to you. Your just.. annoying. Now im getting over this because i dont really like being a grump. I'm sorry to all that i have annoyed

Why do you make "drugs" and "friendly people" seem completely contradictory?

Exactly.

[House MD]

druegs r baad, day root yeer brane

Edited by House MD, 04 July 2006 - 08:44 PM.

[Cuteangel333]

druegs r baad, day root yeer brane

Yep, and masturbating makes you go blind.

[Jaf]

The "high" topics we had for some years ago were annoying.
Anyone remember the mature section?

*So no unless restrictions given*

[Cuteangel333]

S-So... Mods and Admins, do I have permission to post another topic like the one that got locked originally?

Edited by InfamousX241, 04 July 2006 - 09:17 PM.

[Cuteangel333]

holy shit.. did I just completely immagine a post by that house guy and me responding to it.. or did it really happen and it got invisibled?you mods/admins have to quit doing this shit to me.. I'm cool if you invised something.. but fucking lemme know.. I'm seriously freaking out because I don't know what's real and what isn't.

Nah, you just did Datura. After all, you're a druggie.