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#1 Frizzle

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 11:43 AM

Some staff are currently abusing their power or aren't fully aware of their own job and it's requirements. Some people are getting warned because staff are too emotional or hyped up enough and it's pissing some members of (got two complaints today on msn.)

I mean seriously, it's not exactly hard, infact it's a pile of piss to do what staff do, anyone could do it! Yet people still fuck up on a regular basis. I think some staff need to be looked at and personally I feel so be demoted. (Not going to name names since some jobsworth mod would see that as flaming thumbsup.gif)

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#2 Waser Lave

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 11:46 AM

Name and shame them or they can't demote the people you're talking about. wink.gif

I've said numerous times that some staff members are inept, but they just end up closing the threads. tongue.gif

Edited by Laser Wave, 16 April 2008 - 11:47 AM.


#3 Frizzle

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 11:50 AM

Exactly why I won't name them. They'll get in a hissy fit and be all embarassed and close the thread, warn me and then this vicious cycle will continue!

#4 ShadowLink64

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 11:51 AM

Just keep the debate objective and we won't have to close anything. Just keep facts in the picture.

If it matters, we do think the rules need a bit of changing because they've turned into a pile of poo over the years. 1we8.gif Also, we're still ironing out staff stuff and so any input is valuable. tongue.gif

QUOTE (Frizzle @ Apr 16 2008, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly why I won't name them. They'll get in a hissy fit and be all embarassed and close the thread, warn me and then this vicious cycle will continue!

PM me then. blink.gif Then I will know exactly who you are talking about. tongue.gif

#5 Eeyore

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 11:52 AM

*swoops in to close*

Don't worry, I don't mean it. rolleyes.gif

Anyway, staff are having a lot of discussion about this problem and we're as eager to see something done about it as you are. I know discussion wont sound very productive, but it's got to start somewhere.

If you don't feel like you can post the naming and shaming here, it might still be a plan to tell someone in staff (if you haven't already). I for one would prefer to know if people thought I was doing a shit job tongue.gif, instead of hearing general comments and getting paranoid that it's me. Particularly when this is something I really want to avoid slipping into 1we8.gif.

#6 ShadowLink64

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 11:55 AM

QUOTE (Eeyore @ Apr 16 2008, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you don't feel like you can post the naming and shaming here, it might still be a plan to tell someone in staff (if you haven't already). I for one would prefer to know if people thought I was doing a shit job tongue.gif, instead of hearing general comments and getting paranoid that it's me. Particularly when this is something I really want to avoid slipping into 1we8.gif.

As would I. I think I'd rather know if people thought I was doing a shit job than not, to be honest. 1we8.gif

Actually, I think I've been doing a shit job when it comes to a few things. Like Laser's mod, I still haven't installed that yet.....

#7 Waser Lave

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 11:58 AM

QUOTE (ShadowLink64 @ Apr 16 2008, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As would I. I think I'd rather know if people thought I was doing a shit job than not, to be honest. 1we8.gif


Do you happen to know if Cory feels the same way?

I ask for no particular reason since I'm being strictly objective. lookaround.gif

#8 Tetiel

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 12:09 PM

*raises hand* I'm part of HR department right now and you can always PM your concerns about staff or actually anything to Pyke and me. We're responsible for staff evaluations right now and you can name names with us. Even if it is me who you are talking about. If it is me, I accept criticism for that too xD I may possibly give an explanation back for my own behavior, but beyond that... I won't hurt you I promise smile.gif Not implying that you're remotely intimidated by me. Quite the opposite, actually o.o But yeah.

#9 zpoy

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 12:14 PM

I think it would help to put the exact punishments beside the rules and specify the rules more. Might help a little bit. I haven't experienced the staff doing anything like that but I haven't been here long enough so it might happen.

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 12:18 PM

QUOTE (zpoy @ Apr 16 2008, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it would help to put the exact punishments beside the rules and specify the rules more. Might help a little bit. I haven't experienced the staff doing anything like that but I haven't been here long enough so it might happen.

I know that we have a warn guide in staff, but actually I'm pretty sure it's not public. That's not a bad idea. smile.gif

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (Tetiel @ Apr 16 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know that we have a warn guide in staff, but actually I'm pretty sure it's not public. That's not a bad idea. smile.gif

http://www.neocodex....ide-t65832.html
It's been in public since Feb 2007. tongue.gif

#12 Tetiel

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 12:56 PM

QUOTE (Black Flame @ Apr 16 2008, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.neocodex....ide-t65832.html
It's been in public since Feb 2007. tongue.gif

....oh.... whistling.gif

#13 Ives

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 01:21 PM

Double standards are fun. It's unfortunate there isn't room for an intricate robot to moderate the site yet, so we end up with people who fuck up time to time.

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 01:38 PM

Damn it, I thought this was about women/men.

I think Staff should be as fascist and authoritarian as possible cause that way at least we wouldn't have so many of these threads.

#15 Frizzle

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 02:25 PM

QUOTE (Athean @ Apr 16 2008, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Double standards are fun. It's unfortunate there isn't room for an intricate robot to moderate the site yet, so we end up with people who fuck up time to time.


But it's not time to time and it's happening constantly and when it happens it fucks you off.

QUOTE (Alex @ Apr 16 2008, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn it, I thought this was about women/men.

I think Staff should be as fascist and authoritarian as possible cause that way at least we wouldn't have so many of these threads.


Don't like it? Piss off. No-one forces you to read these threads.

#16 zpoy

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 03:43 PM

I had no idea the punishments were public. I didn't see them in the rules. (yes I acctually read them, fuck off)

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 04:48 PM

QUOTE (Alex @ Apr 16 2008, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn it, I thought this was about women/men.

Me too.

QUOTE (Frizzle @ Apr 16 2008, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't like it? Piss off. No-one forces you to read these threads.

Oh my God, FLAMEBAIT!

On a side note- I think that is funny. That is the same shit I hear when I whine about the drug topics, except sometimes it is staff saying that. xD Then when it comes to topics like this, it is no longer "No-one forces you to read these threads." rolleyes.gif Just an example of the double standards.



QUOTE (Laser Wave @ Apr 16 2008, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you happen to know if Cory feels the same way?

I ask for no particular reason since I'm being strictly objective. lookaround.gif

rofl.gif Nice LW.

#18 Ives

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE (Frizzle @ Apr 16 2008, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But it's not time to time and it's happening constantly and when it happens it fucks you off.

Understood mann. I havent been around here for a while so my opinions would be sorta out of it. But what are the things/ staff members who ARE unfair? You can pm me or not, im just curious because my laziness wont let me dig through


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Posted 16 April 2008 - 06:07 PM

This is why I like new moderators. The older ones feel so damn sure of themselves that they're not going to change their ways; new ones are more likely to listen to complaints and change the way they moderate.

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (redlion @ Apr 16 2008, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
new ones are more likely to listen to complaints and change the way they moderate.

Woah, open to change? Be careful, you're on a one way street to getting your ass canned. blink.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif So Redlion, how is it going running the popularity contest? tongue.gif God I can't wait for the results.

Edited by Hawk, 16 April 2008 - 06:16 PM.


#21 redlion

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Hawk @ Apr 16 2008, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Woah, open to change? Be careful, you're on a one way street to getting your ass canned. blink.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif So Redlion, how is it going running the popularity contest? tongue.gif God I can't wait for the results.

Actually, thanks for reminding me. I voted a few days ago and haven't checked it since. Too many staff projects running amok. BRBworkin'

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE (Hawk @ Apr 16 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Woah, open to change? Be careful, you're on a one way street to getting your ass canned. blink.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif So Redlion, how is it going running the popularity contest? tongue.gif God I can't wait for the results.


Why didn't you enter it? ohmy.gif You'd so win.

On a side note, I hate the think tank color. You can't read it.

#23 Hawk

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE (Voltron @ Apr 16 2008, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why didn't you enter it? ohmy.gif You'd so win.

On a side note, I hate the think tank color. You can't read it.

Because I've been private, and I don't like how it is simply a popularity contest. I don't know, maybe I just have a different perception of what Private should really be. I may have to talk to someone about that when the results come out. smile.gif

I know, I dislike it too. blink.gif

So yeah... double standards. blink.gif

#24 zpoy

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (Voltron @ Apr 16 2008, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why didn't you enter it? ohmy.gif You'd so win.

On a side note, I hate the think tank color. You can't read it.

I thought you voted for this to be the color? blink.gif I like it but I had suggested it be like a dark grey color. Reminds me of a tank for some reason.

#25 redlion

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (Josh @ Apr 16 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Problem is "staff" is doing something about it yet the very people we are talking about are on staff, so how does anything go about getting changed? The very people who are in danger of losing their power are the "staff" doing something about fixing some of the staff and their power issues. Doesn't make sense right? This should be something Super Mod + should be handling if that's not already the case.

I'm glad you know how to run staff better than the staff does smile.gif


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