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#26 Faval

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 07:24 AM

Psh, who actually PAYS for those sites?


Clearly there are lots of people that do pay for them. Where do you think free sites get their content from anyway? They get them from pay sites :p

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    #27 Lineage

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 07:52 AM

    <br />http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARMoJ-9G68k<br />Tell me you are still against guns after watching this.<br />


    INVINCIBLE BEARS, LOLOL

    #28 MsRose

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:18 AM

    Option A) Die instantly from a gun shot wound to the face.
    Option B) Have your body slow shut down from lack of blood.

    meh *shrugs*

    On the other hand, it would be hard to hold up a mcdonalds with just knives. They simply don't have the distance. You'd have to get ninja stars :/

    Edited by MsRose, 08 September 2010 - 08:19 AM.


    #29 Faval

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:32 AM

    Option A) Die instantly from a gun shot wound to the face.
    Option B) Have your body slow shut down from lack of blood.

    meh *shrugs*

    On the other hand, it would be hard to hold up a mcdonalds with just knives. They simply don't have the distance. You'd have to get ninja stars :/


    They could always throw knives, it's equally as deadly. I mean a knife to the neck would kill anyone. It's just that it's not something an average Joe can do.

    #30 MsRose

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:37 AM

    I mean a knife to the neck would kill anyone


    This man tends to disagree.

    Edited by MsRose, 08 September 2010 - 08:38 AM.


    #31 Faval

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:41 AM

    This man tends to disagree.


    These people disagree. A well throw knife to your artery on your neck will kill you in a minute or two.

    #32 MsRose

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:45 AM

    These people disagree. A well throw knife to your artery on your neck will kill you in a minute or two.


    It was only a joke.
    You didn't have to out-google-me :crybaby:

    #33 WakaWaka

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:45 AM

    Obviously you are not catering to his needs...

    Spoiler


    the "guitars" are just too much..just too much. :D :D

    Edited by WakaWaka, 08 September 2010 - 08:46 AM.


    #34 MsRose

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:46 AM

    Also, your people can't disagree.

    #35 Faval

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:48 AM

    It was only a joke.
    You didn't have to out-google-me :crybaby:


    All in good humor :)

    Also, your people can't disagree.


    Hmmm...or can they? :p

    A picture is worth a thousand words so what's an action worth?

    Edited by Faval, 08 September 2010 - 08:50 AM.


    #36 iargue

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:09 AM

    Got to love those pay-cam sites, eh?



    I was actually going along the facts that the internet has any kind of porn that you wish to see. I have never, and will never pay to see a girl naked.

    Option A) Die instantly from a gun shot wound to the face.
    Option B) Have your body slow shut down from lack of blood.

    meh *shrugs*

    On the other hand, it would be hard to hold up a mcdonalds with just knives. They simply don't have the distance. You'd have to get ninja stars :/


    A)Anyone that still believes that every gunshot to the head instantly kills you... knows nothing about guns.
    b)With a sword you have many many more methods of surviving then against an object that travels faster then your reaction speed. For instance. If your facing a person with a sword you can fun faster then him. Or defend yourself better, or blind him with dirt, or break his sword. Many more methods then getting lucky vs someone with a gun. Even if you had a gun, it all comes down to who shoots faster and is more accurate. Even if you kill him, he could still kill you.

    And your lack of knowledge shows even more when you speak of knives. For one, you can have throwing knives which are designed for throwing, and work better then ninja stars, which are designed to be thrown in instances were you dont have the time to properly execute a throw. If you were to rob a Mcdonalds you would most likely use a sword, and if you follow the tradition of the medieval ages, more then one person would have a sword as well, making it nearly impossible.

    #37 MsRose

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:17 AM

    I was actually going along the facts that the internet has any kind of porn that you wish to see. I have never, and will never pay to see a girl naked.



    A)Anyone that still believes that every gunshot to the head instantly kills you... knows nothing about guns.
    b)With a sword you have many many more methods of surviving then against an object that travels faster then your reaction speed. For instance. If your facing a person with a sword you can fun faster then him. Or defend yourself better, or blind him with dirt, or break his sword. Many more methods then getting lucky vs someone with a gun. Even if you had a gun, it all comes down to who shoots faster and is more accurate. Even if you kill him, he could still kill you.

    And your lack of knowledge shows even more when you speak of knives. For one, you can have throwing knives which are designed for throwing, and work better then ninja stars, which are designed to be thrown in instances were you dont have the time to properly execute a throw. If you were to rob a Mcdonalds you would most likely use a sword, and if you follow the tradition of the medieval ages, more then one person would have a sword as well, making it nearly impossible.


    iargue,
    SHUT THE FUCK UP.

    No one is taking this thread seriously.
    It's a dumb topic. Hence, my dumb response.

    #38 iargue

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:27 AM

    iargue,
    SHUT THE FUCK UP.

    No one is taking this thread seriously.
    It's a dumb topic. Hence, my dumb response.



    Then please stop wasting my time. I did not make this topic for you to make stupid jokes, be sarcastic, or to tell me to shut the fuck up. I asked for a discussion.

    #39 MsRose

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:30 AM

    Then please stop wasting my time. I did not make this topic for you to make stupid jokes, be sarcastic, or to tell me to shut the fuck up. I asked for a discussion.


    Gah! Well then insult everyone else too, jerk.

    It's not like a was interrupting a great debate or something.

    If you want this thread to be sup3r cereal!1!! then change what you wrote on your first post. Offer up some detailed ideas of what you think the world would be like.


    ahem, see I helped VVVV

    Edited by MsRose, 08 September 2010 - 09:43 AM.


    #40 WakaWaka

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:31 AM

    Discuss how much better life would be without guns.


    People will finally fight with fists..not stare each other down and pull a gun and shoot someone in the back because they looked into their general direction.
    apprently that's considered agression now.
    So yes, I want guns away because punk ass think they are tough and shit because they got a gun.
    There was an incident where I live last year that had this happened in a club.

    #41 Unseen

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:32 AM

    To answer in honestly if guns didn't exist. Man would just continue kicking each other's asses with bows and arrows. Now IF THOSE didn't exist then we'd use slings. If IN FULL SOMEHOW MIRACLE man was actually not wanting to kill each other then life would be in fact good. Guns are only a tool, man is the weapon.

    #42 iargue

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:32 AM

    Gah! Well them insult everyone else too, jerk.

    It's not like a was interrupting a great debate or something.

    If you want this thread to be sup3r cereal!1!! then change what you wrote on your first post. Offer up some detailed ideas of what you think the world would be like.


    I never did insult you, I just stated that you know nothing about weapons. If you took an insult from that, then I apologize.

    Your the only person that offered up something that was debatable, everyone before me thought that I was talking about gun control.

    #43 WakaWaka

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:33 AM

    so much hostility in this topic.
    Good thing there's no guns to shoot someone over the internet...YET.

    #44 Faval

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:33 AM

    If you were to rob a Mcdonalds you would most likely use a sword, and if you follow the tradition of the medieval ages, more then one person would have a sword as well, making it nearly impossible.


    I don't know about that, swords like guns are also designed to kill people. Not everyone from the feudal era had a right to own/use a sword either. I'm sure there would be sword control laws in place. In Japan, swords today still have to be registered other than the Iaito and Mogito or if the blade was under 5.9inches.

    Edited by Faval, 08 September 2010 - 09:34 AM.


    #45 iargue

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:40 AM

    To answer in honestly if guns didn't exist. Man would just continue kicking each other's asses with bows and arrows. Now IF THOSE didn't exist then we'd use slings. If IN FULL SOMEHOW MIRACLE man was actually not wanting to kill each other then life would be in fact good. Guns are only a tool, man is the weapon.



    Yes, but the tool makes things to easy. Using a sword is not as simple as stabbing someone. Its actually pretty heavy, and easy to dodge unless your very skilled with it. This puts an actually level of practice required to kill someone, rather then just stopping by and picking up a weapon and shooting someone. Obviously people will still kill each other, but they just wont be able to do it as easily.

    I don't know about that, swords like guns are also designed to kill people. Not everyone from the feudal era had a right to own/use a sword either. I'm sure there would be sword control laws in place. In Japan, swords today still have to be registered other than the Iaito and Mogito or if the blade was under 5.9inches.


    Obviously in todays age, the sword is required to be registered and things, blah blah blah, but back before this stupid registration and control bullshit that was imposed purely because we guns, everyone besides women and surfs (For the most part) were allowed to have a sword, if they could afford it.

    Yes, Swords are capable, and designed to kill. But it takes a considerable amount of skill to be able to actually hit someone with it, especially if that person runs away. You cant just walk up and stab someone with a sword, its to big, and you must first lift it, and by that time the other person would be ready to defend. This puts a higher level of skill required to kill someone then a gun would.

    People will finally fight with fists..not stare each other down and pull a gun and shoot someone in the back because they looked into their general direction.
    apprently that's considered agression now.
    So yes, I want guns away because punk ass think they are tough and shit because they got a gun.
    There was an incident where I live last year that had this happened in a club.



    That is my point exactly. Guns give people the ability to kill when they should not have the ability to kill. Guns are a better enticement, then any punishment is a different. Because when you consider everything. If you wanted to kill this person. Its easy. You get a gun. Point, and shoot. Miss? Just shoot a few hundred more times. Hes dead. That was like 5 minutes of work. Its too easy to kill someone, they dont even have time to worry about jail, or the death penalty or anything. No time to regret what they are going to do, they will just regret it later, after the person is dead.

    #46 Unseen

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:42 AM

    So essentially you're more or less asking what if it actually took effort to pose a threat to other humans how would the world be?

    #47 Sweeney

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:57 AM

    Essentially, the question is nonsensical.
    If we had never invented guns, we'd have to be an extremely stupid race as a whole.

    Thus, life would be totally unrecognisable, and to speculate is meaningless.

    #48 Faval

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 10:02 AM

    Yes, Swords are capable, and designed to kill. But it takes a considerable amount of skill to be able to actually hit someone with it, especially if that person runs away. You cant just walk up and stab someone with a sword, its to big, and you must first lift it, and by that time the other person would be ready to defend. This puts a higher level of skill required to kill someone then a gun would.


    There are several ways to kill with a sword that don't involve lifting a sword. Maybe I'm just not thinking the traditional medieval sword but rather the katana short swords where they can do a form of Iai and draw and cut at the same time.

    On another note, technology would just improve the efficiency of current weapons anyway and make it easier to use and more efficient at killing.

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 10:02 AM

    Spoiler


    #50 iargue

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    Posted 08 September 2010 - 10:12 AM

    Essentially, the question is nonsensical.
    If we had never invented guns, we'd have to be an extremely stupid race as a whole.

    Thus, life would be totally unrecognisable, and to speculate is meaningless.


    Or we could have devoloped technology the same was we have before, just never bothered to develop guns. You dont have to be stupid, to not invent a weapon. We could still invent cars, and computers, and everything else, just avoid the mistake of creating and mass producing guns.

    And, your basically saying that all theoretical physicists jobs are pointless. Given that all they do is speculate.


    There are several ways to kill with a sword that don't involve lifting a sword. Maybe I'm just not thinking the traditional medieval sword but rather the katana short swords where they can do a form of Iai and draw and cut at the same time.

    On another note, technology would just improve the efficiency of current weapons anyway and make it easier to use and more efficient at killing.


    And the move of drawing and cutting at the same time, takes practice to be able to pull of. That enforces the point that some kind of effort comes into play when trying to kill someone.


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