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pawsies

Member Since 26 Aug 2011
Offline Dec 07 2011 11:44 PM

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In Topic: This is seriously screwed up.

22 October 2011 - 11:55 PM

...Let me get this straight.

You'd be willing to execute every single one of the 1.3 billion people living in China (thats 1,300,000,000, most of whom could have done nothing to prevent Yueyue's death at all) on the basis of one incident representing ~20 people (less than 0.000002% of the country) who did nothing to stop the death of one child, and you still think you'd be on the higher moral ground?

And that's not even including the various Chinese populations hailing from the other regions of Asia. Contrary to popular belief, not all Chinese are from China, so it makes no sense to stereotype and blacklist the entire race just for the actions of the minority. I, myself, am Chinese, born and raised in a considerably advanced and prosperous country in South East Asia, and I was just as sickened, horrified and angered as any other decent human being in this planet when I saw that video feed, as were most of the fellow Chinese in my local community. I cannot vouch for the people in China because I'm not personally acquainted with the lifestyle and social climate of that country, but I can guarantee that no one in my country, Chinese or otherwise, would have stood by and done nothing to help that little girl if they were in the position to do so, therefore it is really not fair to respond with such blatant hate and racism towards the Chinese, even though I understand where those sentiments come from.

On a side note, I have recently visited the Auschwitz Birkenau German Nazi and Concentration Camp in Poland, and had the opportunity to take a guided tour in the Auschwitz I Museum, where the actual prisoner barracks and gas chamber had been preserved and restored as one of the UNESCO World Heritage Sites. It had been one thing to read about the Holocaust and its millions of victims, Jews, gypsies and political PoWs included, but quite another different experience altogether to be at the very site where some of the world's worst atrocities had occurred. I won't bore you with the minor details of my visit, but going to that place made something inside me curl up and die. To see the personal effects of the victims who had gone into this death camp and never came back out, the thousands of names scrawled on the luggages piled up like garbage behind the glass panels, the forlorn, tiny shoes of children who had never got to wear them again, the tons of human hair that had been sheared and harvested from the gassed PoWs to be fashioned into wigs, nets and even carpets, to hear how even the remains of the prisoners had been used as fertilizers for crops as if they were nothing more than animals, it really makes anger and indignity well up inside you on the behalf of those victims. And to think all that had been orchestrated because of a group of madmen's delusions of grandeur, to create a world led by the so called superior Aryan race - Caucasians of Nordic descent - it is almost enough to make one think irrational thoughts of hatred and rage.

@supertrap: What about all those children who were killed there then? Yue Yue may have been ignored by the passers by for around 6 to 8 minutes after the collision but it was speculated that the victims of the gas chambers take 10 to 20 minutes on average to succumb to the fumes, and often died in abject agony and great suffering. WIll you start hating all Caucasians too and demand to kill off your entire race just for the actions of a minority, since you are so moralistic and outraged on the behalf of all the poor children in the world? If not, I think that your earlier comments just makes you a hypocrite and a racist.

Of course I understand that we are all entitled to our own opinions, but I just don't believe that all the hate and anti-race sentiments will help matters at all.

P.S.: Switching to a lighter topic, if you still believe that Chinese genocide is the way to go, then I suppose I can only wish you good luck in that fruitless endeavor. Have you actually seen us? We are like freaking everywhere and have successfully infiltrated just about every country in the world since the last century at least. There's a Chinatown in just about every Caucasian country that I know of and funnily enough, I haven't seen any America-town anywhere in Asia just yet. If the Chinese have any outstanding virtues, it is that we are typically about as resilient a cockroaches and equally hard to get rid of. Heck, I think we'd probably even survive the zombie apocalypse and then figure out a way to make a business out of scamming zombies to buy brains from us. Posted Image

In Topic: You Laugh, You Lose: Neocosex Edition

22 October 2011 - 10:14 AM

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I lost here, pfft-hahahaha!




Pokemon IRL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1h5TzdTq0o&list=FLtounXIUQS6zb9acZ70orCg&index=37

In Topic: This is seriously screwed up.

22 October 2011 - 09:22 AM

RIP, little girl.

Hopefully, your story will be enough to change things around for the better in China, and that such an ugly situation will not happen to anyone else for a long, long time to come.

How the fuck is Sun Tzu related to Asian morality? Didn't he behead two whores for not following his commands during a drill?

Sun Tzu was first and foremost a patriot who served his country and kingdom. To learn that that his country's administration had fallen so low that its laws seemed designed to protect the government more than the masses and the children of China, I'd think he'd feel no small amount of shame and disappointment, at the very least.

As for the two concubines; well, you can't really blame the guy for doing what he did. I'd be majorly brassed off too if I was a general whose commanders just stood around and giggled instead of following their orders to the letter. It was supposed to be an army after all; what did you expect him to do? Giggle back? =p Besides, I doubt even the leaders of present day military units would take well to their subordinates ignoring commands and giggling, of all the stupid things to do.

In Topic: This is seriously screwed up.

17 October 2011 - 09:45 PM

I agree with you. I think that many people dislike Asians and think of them as bad people with no morals, but honestly, if North American was under the same conditions, we'd be like that too. There are simply way to many people to govern in China, and the level of corruption within the government is extreme. China wants other countries to see them as a powerful, wealthy, and civilized nation, and although a very tiny percentage of people may be rich and well-fed, most are still living in poverty. We may all be very shocked at this incident, but keep in mind that many more like this occur daily in China; it's just that 90% of them are never reported. When I went back to China for a visit this summer, most of what the news there talks about is what the government officials are doing instead of the daily lives and incidents of normal citizens. One death means nothing in a country with over a billion humans. To be honest, if China continues to run with such a corrupt government system, they're going to run out of allies and its innocent citizens are going to suffer from the wrongdoings of the officials.


Precisely. It is the environment that shape the morality and nature of people, not the race. People should try understand why such incidents are happening instead of just stereotyping all Asians and just going 'Oh, they are all like that. I'm not surprised this happened. Typical of that lot, those yellow skinned, uncivilized barbarians.' If that is really so, why are such reports so prevalent and often cropping up only in China, and not other parts of Asia? I believe that unless a person is inflicted with personality disorders or mental illness, no one is inherently evil, just influenced by circumstances, social, political or otherwise, to instinctively adhere to the rules of conduct that is the norm of that particular society. Instead of condemning and spouting hate and racist messages, understand instead that the government of China has significant impact on its people, too much perhaps, but if they can alter their policies to focus less on monetary compensation and more on humanity, then that poor toddler would not have to suffer such an unjust fate when her life is only just beginning. Of course, something like that may very well take years before it comes to fruition, since China is horrendously corrupt, and I honestly do not believe that officials will care overly much about the life of one little girl, but that may just be my inner cynic speaking.

i saw this on sankakucomplex earlier today, it is rather disturbing. i wish i was able to make out what they were saying during the interview with the parents. i want to know where they were when their child was being run over and ignored by passerby's.


According to this report, the mother was collecting laundry, leaving the child in the family's hardware shop where she had subsequently wandered off. When the mother discovered the girl missing, she had immediately gone off to look for her, but had went in search in another direction from where the child actually was. I do not think that the father was around at the time of the accident.

In Topic: This is seriously screwed up.

17 October 2011 - 08:28 PM

I agree with nymh. It's not right to tar all asians with the same brush just because of this incident. China may be the largest nation in Asia, but do bear in mind that it is not the only country in the region. I can assure you that a great majority of us over here are equally outraged and angered by what had been allowed to happen to that poor little girl, but at the same time, it is not fair to judge an entire continent of people just by the actions of a mere handful of rotten apples.

And I don't agree that it is the culture of the Chinese that breeds such blatant social callousness and disregard for human life, but rather the laws of the country as well as the appalling corruption of the government that are partly to blame for indirectly cultivating such cold blooded, uncaring behavior in its people. The citizens of China are not as fortunate as the rest of us living in civilized countries. The income divide is wide and getting wider every day; the small percentile that consists of the wealthy are extremely rich, but the poor are still very poor. As such, money is the driving force behind just about everything, and unfortunately, the lives of people are cheap there. Also, as already mentioned by a few posters in this thread, there is nothing even vaguely resembling the US's Good Samaritan Law in China to protect any helpful do-gooders from becoming liabilities themselves when they attempt to render aid to those in need. The message that the Chinese government is sending out is quite obvious; if you want to help others, you may do so...at your own peril.

For the sake of self interests/ self convenience, I think one would be astonished to know just how many would be willing to silence their own conscience and walk away from a situation, even one which consists of a little two year old girl splattered in her own blood and slowly dying in agony in the middle of the road. I shudder to contemplate the last lucid thoughts that must have gone through the child's mind as she laid there in excruciating pain, seeing all those people walking past her and wondering why no one was coming over to help her.

Five thousand years of Chinese civilization, and this is how it all turns out. China seems to be going backwards in morality even as its economy advances in leaps and bounds. Sun Tzu must be rolling in his grave right now.