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[Andy]

In this case Nick is the bigger hater because Patrick didn't intend to offend. Specific case = boring debate. The point of debate is to be a conflict of ideas, not differing interpretations of a case study.

[MsRose]

His comment was offensive to begin with. To say that anyone who doesn't follow his religion is a fool is just...awful. Honestly, if it was me in your shoes I wouldn't have been so nice.

[Sweeney]

In this case Nick is the bigger hater because Patrick didn't intend to offend. Specific case = boring debate. The point of debate is to be a conflict of ideas, not differing interpretations of a case study.

Motions of a debate can be as specific, or as general, as the house cares to propose.

[redlion]

His comment was offensive to begin with. To say that anyone who doesn't follow his religion is a fool is just...awful. Honestly, if it was me in your shoes I wouldn't have been so nice.

See this is the thing... because he blocked me, I've no way of knowing if that's the correct passage. All I remembered from his post was fear of the lord and that it came from proverbs. If you use the link I posted in the OP, you'll see there are like five or six passages that use this phrase. I picked the one that was closest to what I remembered.

Also, I used the King James version of the passage, while he probably used some hippy new age bullshit reconstructionist version of the Bible. His passage wasn't as strongly worded as the KJV, that's for sure.

I thought it might be worth pointing out that Andy is the only one that spoke about generalities in this thread. As far as I can tell, Patrick, Cody and myself were only ever referring to this specific case.

Good bit of ass covering, that

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I don't mind, it saves me the trouble of repeating myself.

[Dichromate]

Your friend is an unfriend if he unfriends a friend for being a friendly friend.

Seriously, whether you're religious or anti, we should all just sit and share a cup of tea. Life's no fun if you're going into it all frowny.
Patrick has a point though. Some religious guys out there are scary.

[Dichromate]

Your friend's an unfriend if he unfriends a friend for being a friendly friend.

Seriously, whether you're religious or not, we should all just sit back and drink some tea. Life's no fun if you're going in with a frown.
Patrick's got a point though - some religious guys out there are crazy about it, and the sad thing about it is that that statement is literal. It's not like he was specifically aiming at him with a 'U mad bro'.

[Noitidart]

It looks like the heat is down but guys let's be nice and joe man you can't call someone that doesn't know you, an asshole they can take it real hard.

[Sweeney]

It looks like the heat is down but guys let's be nice and joe man you can't call someone that doesn't know you, an asshole they can take it real hard.

If they don't want to be called an asshole, mayhaps they oughtn't act like one?

[Noitidart]

Even if that is the case I want to ask you to be nicer man. These replies could have been much more cordial.

[Sweeney]

Even if that is the case I want to ask you to be nicer man. These replies could have been much more boring.

Fixed that for you

[MsRose]

Even if that is the case I want to ask you to be nicer man. These replies could have been much more cordial.

Where's the fun in that?

[Noitidart]

Gosh you two. Help me out here sheesh.

[MsRose]

Gosh you two. Help me out here sheesh.

I think we should just send out a warning to new members to watch out for Joe, he bites. It would make everyone happy C:

[Noitidart]

The people I give warnings to he just bites even harder. >_< I have no idea how knows i warned them.

[Melchoire]

I wouldn't like being called a "minion" but you're still in the right. He should at least be mature enough to talk about it...

[Ladida]

"Help the stupid, they're contagious!" - Nirvana

One time when someone tried to save me from my heathenism, I told her the Bible is stupid. She never tried that again.

[redlion]

Woah, TOTALLY forgot about this. Now it makes me laugh even more than it did initially. Good riddance.

I wouldn't like being called a "minion" but you're still in the right. He should at least be mature enough to talk about it...

Okay, true, minion could be offensive. But if we were talking about Darth Sidious, we'd name his followers minions. And if we were talking about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, his followers would be minions.

My best guess is he's one of those people that tries to simplify life as much as possible. Rather than engaging in a debate of principles, he chose to block out that avenue in favor of the simpler total communication blackout.

Lest I come off wrong, I don't really know this kid all that well. I didn't go to school with him, and I was probably physically in his presence less than a dozen times. We competed in the same speech events in high school... we weren't best buds or anything.

"Help the stupid, they're contagious!" - Nirvana

One time when someone tried to save me from my heathenism, I told her the Bible is stupid. She never tried that again.

Nice quote!

Okay, this occurred quite by accident, but I was browsing the 'do you believe in god?' thread earlier and I must have hit the multiquote button without actually replying, because when I saw this thread and went to reply, your post from the other thread (below) appeared in the reply window. Funnily enough, it has everything to do with this topic.

No, no I don't believe in God.

And religion is man-made, and it subjugates women. Somehow, women don't see that.

You raise a few interesting points.

On the subject of male-dominant religions, you are quite right. Religion is usually hierarchical, usually ordained heads of religion are male, and in most world religions women are only afforded a limited set of privileges compared to males.

The other issue, which you may have only inadvertently raised, is the issue of man-made religion. I believe you used those words to emphasize the male-dominated nature of most world religions, but those words recall what Aldous Huxley called the Ground of all being. Something about the nature of man caused us to simultaneously create religions on all ends of the earth. The specific gods, rites, theologies etc. may have been different, but in many cases the outcome, the lessons were the same. It isn't coincidence that the golden rule occurs in most world religions; besides the necessity of the thing to build a society, it seems to innately spring from our minds. How many times have we all heard a child say 'It's not fair!' when no child is ever actually explained the concept of fairness. Fairness is a universal concept.

Food for thought, thats all