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[Waser Lave]

Mummies are the living dead (Also known to eat flesh)
Cannibals are people that eat people.
Zombie eat flesh and spread the disease.

You cannot accept a definition of zombies that already coincides with the definition of something else.

Except that it pre-dates the definition which you're apparently using for the term 'zombie'. The original meaning of 'zombie' is from voodoo witchcraft where a recently dead person apparently becomes re-activated under the control of the witch/wizard/whatever they call them over there.

[iargue]

Except that it pre-dates the definition which you're apparently using for the term 'zombie'.

Did you know Ass, used to mean donkey?

Times change.

[Sweeney]

Contamination occurs through direct contact with blood or saliva. The usually method of contamination comes from a bite, though spitting of blood is also a known method of transmission.

Not in every definition.

The incubation period relies heavily upon the degree of the infection and the strength of the targets immune system. The period can be a shot as a minute, or as long as 24 hours.

Not in every definition.

The Supernatural effects depends entirely upon the strain of the virus. This can result in reduced speed or increased speed, as well as an increased ability to smell living flesh. All infected have the ability to determine other infected individuals and do not attack each other.

Not in every definition.

Huh. Looks like a stream of bullshit, then.

[Waser Lave]

Did you know Ass, used to mean donkey?

Times change.

It still does mean a donkeyesque animal (but not exactly a donkey), that hasn't changed.

[Sweeney]

Did you know Ass, used to mean donkey?

Times change.

Well, not that much. The primary definition of "ass" is still "A hoofed mammal of the horse family with a braying call, typically smaller than a horse and with longer ears."

[iargue]

Not in every definition.



Not in every definition.



Not in every definition.

Huh. Looks like a stream of bullshit, then.

Please provide definitions of a zombie outbreak since that night of the living dead, that define it as otherwise please.

[Waser Lave]

Please provide definitions of a zombie outbreak since that night of the living dead, that define it as otherwise please.

The Walking Dead uses a different definition for one.

[Sweeney]

Please provide definitions of a zombie outbreak since that night of the living dead, that define it as otherwise please.

Why? They're all made up anyway. I can make one up right now that's just as valid as any other.

And why after your arbitrary cut off date?

[iargue]

It still does mean a donkeyesque animal (but not exactly a donkey), that hasn't changed.

Well, not that much. The primary definition of "ass" is still "A hoofed mammal of the horse family with a braying call, typically smaller than a horse and with longer ears."

And yet it also means (and is predominately used for)

• vulgar. A person's buttocks or anus.

And there are plenty of other words that have changed in definition over time.


Artificial
This originally meant ‘full of artistic or technical skill’.


Nice
This comes from the Latin ‘not to know’. Originally a ‘nice person’ was someone who was ignorant or unaware.
Awful
This meant ‘full of awe’ i.e. something wonderful, delightful, amazing.
Brave
This once was used to signify cowardice.
Manufacture
From the Latin meaning ‘to make by hand’ this originally signified things that were created by craftsmen.
Counterfeit
This once meant a perfect copy

[ch33psh33p]

How do you take yourself seriously??

[Sweeney]

And yet it also means (and is predominately used for)

• vulgar. A person's buttocks or anus.

And there are plenty of other words that have changed in definition over time.


Artificial
This originally meant ‘full of artistic or technical skill’.


Nice
This comes from the Latin ‘not to know’. Originally a ‘nice person’ was someone who was ignorant or unaware.
Awful
This meant ‘full of awe’ i.e. something wonderful, delightful, amazing.
Brave
This once was used to signify cowardice.
Manufacture
From the Latin meaning ‘to make by hand’ this originally signified things that were created by craftsmen.
Counterfeit
This once meant a perfect copy

But not zombie.

[iargue]

The Walking Dead uses a different definition for one.

How does it differ?

[Waser Lave]

But you said:

You cannot accept a definition of zombies that already coincides with the definition of something else.

The word zombie should be more accurately considered to mean any seemingly re-animated corpse which is what the original meaning was and also fits every type of 'zombie' that I know of. Your additions based on contamination are pretty meaningless even leaving aside the whole thing about zombies being complete fiction.

How does it differ?

The virus is apparently airborne and everybody is infected with or without contact.

[Sweeney]

"The word “ass” is much older than the word “donkey.” The Latin word for the ass was asinus. This word became ane in French, and asse in English. Eventually, the final e was dropped from the English word.
The ass has been thought to be a stubborn, stupid animal. The use of a word meaning ass for a stupid person dates back to ancient Egypt!"

Those people in ancient Egypt had a time machine and a taste for colloquial language? =o

You are on fire today.

[Nymh]

You are on fire today.

See why I like her?

[iargue]

The virus is apparently airborne and everybody is infected with or without contact.

Ummm..

Sorry?

Which "The walking dead" are you talking about?

[Waser Lave]

See why I like her?

Boobs, right?

Ummm..

Sorry?

Which "The walking dead" are you talking about?

The well-known comic book and subsequent TV series entitled "The Walking Dead".

[iargue]

"The word “ass” is much older than the word “donkey.” The Latin word for the ass was asinus. This word became ane in French, and asse in English. Eventually, the final e was dropped from the English word.
The ass has been thought to be a stubborn, stupid animal. The use of a word meaning ass for a stupid person dates back to ancient Egypt!"

Those people in ancient Egypt had a time machine and a taste for colloquial language? =o

So.

Word change over time? Just as the deffinition of zombie changed over time?

Thanks.

[Sweeney]

Ummm..

Sorry?

Which "The walking dead" are you talking about?

From the wiki:

Zombies are the main non-human antagonists of The Walking Dead.
The zombies, are the classic slow walking Romero style zombies, which originated in Night of the Living Dead. Following classic Romero-rules, everyone who dies, for any reason, will re-animate as a zombie except if the brain is damaged/destroyed. Even someone killed by a gunshot wound with no zombies involved at all will re-animate as a zombie. Zombie bites are not how the "infection" is spread. Instead, zombie bites and saliva cause infections that are 100% fatal. Characters have speculated, but cannot confirm, that whatever causes zombies to re-animate is some sort of virus that everyone in the world is technically already infected with but is only triggered by death. It is known, however, that upon death, it can take anytime between three minutes and eight hours for the corpse to reanimate.^[1]
Zombies out-number humans around 5,000 to 1.

[iargue]

The well-known comic book and subsequent TV series entitled "The Walking Dead".

In which the walkers spread the infection via biting?

[Sweeney]

In which the walkers spread the infection via biting?

Clearly not.

And hey, whaddya know, transmission by biting wasn't in the original Romero version, either!

In Romero's Dead series, any human being who dies after the onset of the zombie apocalypse can and will reanimate shortly after death, excluding those who died by massive brain trauma (such as a gunshot wound to the head) or had their brain incapacitated post-mortem. Being bitten by a zombie is not a prerequisite for returning to life, as any deceased human, regardless of exposure to a zombie, will return.

[Waser Lave]

In which the walkers spread the infection via biting?

Nope.

[iargue]

I know you aren't smart enough to keep up with the implications, but at least try to do so. Your point was that it was suddenly a vulgar/offensive word when it supposedly was ONLY about donkeys initially. Try again!

No. My point was that at some point a word meant something else, and then changed.

It started as ass, then meant donkey, and then meant both.

It changed over time.

It. Changed. Over. time.

Just like zombies change over time.

Nope.

In which walkers exist, not zombies?

[Bone]

No. My point was that at some point a word meant something else, and then changed.

It started as ass, then meant donkey, and then meant both.

It changed over time.

It. Changed. Over. time.

Just like zombies change over time.

[Sweeney]

In which walkers exist, not zombies?

Fastest backpedal I've ever seen.

What about the "original" Romero zombies?